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Saturday, February 2, 2013

Rayara Karunya

  • Question : We go to Rayaru for kashta pahihaara. Question here is..when rayaru grants benediction to us, does he 'transfer' X amount of Punya externally (from his good self)to fix our problem or is that Punya already present in our prarabdha and it is a bhagwaad icche that he makes rayar seva, a nimmita and gets that punya element which is our own prarabdha/sanchita punya as a benediction to the performed seva..
  • saying it was all prarabdha is like [ taking help of kind man in getting arecommendation for JOB , seeing the KINd man's influence chairman of company gives job ] BUT THEN INSTEAD OF THANKING THE KIND MAN ONE SAYS oh THAT WAS JUST MY good PRRARABDHA , yoU WERE JUST A NIMITTA man ,, I HAD GOOD LUCK SO i GOT THE job .... THIS IS KNOWN AS ehsaan faramosh
  • RAYARU krupa is indeed a KRUPA in real sense ONE cannot say its prarabdha .. its PURE ANUGRAHA else the evry meaning of GRACE dissapears from the SOCIETY
  • Coming to RAYARU is termed as very OLD punya ..in operation so that even in distress times we have some solace of good fortune ... but this OLD punya wil not operate if one does not SEEK BLESSINGS ... so SEEKING blessing with FAITH and devotion is matter of upbringing , sadhana and development of personality ... after that RAYARU not taking note of our illequipped addressing towards his HOLY feet and yet GRACING us a IS INDEED A UPAKAARA no PRARABDH here
  • OLD punya means .... when you are facing trouble it means you are undergoing a bad prarabdha ie some PAP sin of previous birth ... so you suffer only ... this will be instantaneous previosu births .. but simulataneously a streak of little punya done some many births ago suddenly appears on the cards to give fruits , it is very feeble , it only gives some good thoughts in mind ... IF one doesnt make proper use fo such inspirations thenn he loses OOPORTUNITY ...
  • suppose by bad prarabdha you are in desert and thristy ... suddenly by old punya you get nearby a well .. BUT then if you dont sek water there and OR CLOSE YOUR EYES IN SCORCHING SUN AND GO AHEAD who is TO BLAME ?
  • NOTHING is predetermined
  • WHAT GOD knows is what GOD KNOWS , its because we do not know his MIND we say its not predetermined ....
  • say a person is lazy he loses opportunity .. ASK GOD why did he LOSE opportunity GOD will say HE was lazy he lost it .. GOD never says I WANTED him to LOSE [ if he is deserving ]
  • suppose same person asks OH GOD if I LEAVE LAZINESS WILL GAIN OPPORTUNITY GOD says YES
  • now whether he did effort to leave laziness [ was it destined FOR GOD its his own action his mind , so predestined ] for us we did EFFORT to leave BAd thing ITs that we got result ... where is destiny here
  • suppose lets say case of RAKSHAS they dont believe in GOD .. but they do tapas and ask boon and rake havoc .. then GOD comes and brings in some caveat and vanquishes then [ tghis bringing in new caveats in impossible scenarios is lords QUALITIES ] .. but THEN IF raksha WAS TO BE VANQUISHED ANYHOW WHY ALLOW HIM TO DO TAPAS ? tHATS GOD's mind //
  • life is not agame its REAL .. calling it game is ADVAITIK thought pessimistic THOUGHT .....
  • lets think this way .. everytime RAVAN is born RAMA wil come and kill him in all TRETA YUGA .. BUT still after RAVANA turns violent and uncontrollable all DEAVTAS go tO KSHEERASAGAR and pray LORD to TAKE AVATARA why ? cant they just kleep quiet anjd say OKAY another few years anyhow he will come why bother ? do they THI*NK ././. WHAT if they think like that ? LORD will never come !!!
  • So is worhipping LORD a superficial routine JOB which is predETERMINED predestined .... the answer is clear NO .. one must pray and then only LORD comes .. if one becomes stubborn anyhow lord will come it is predestined then PAIN will become unbearrable to the POINT of submission to PRAY
  • so REALITY is world is real .. predestined concept is wrong ...say you have a problem .. it gets solved only by employing means to solve and not by leaving it to destiny .. if you leave problem to destiny they will remain for birth after birth ..
  • say somebody is cursed .. if he doesnot try to mitigate curse . then he will remain cursed that birth and next birth again curse will operate ... so because of curse other good fortunes will also not operate .. SO one must work hard to mitigate curse .. when it gets mitigated new fortunes appear to give fruits
  • one cannot say oh I am cursed its destiny .. so after soemtime this destiny will vanish and things will change let me sleep ,, when destiny approaches i will be relieved .. SUCH A DAY WILL NEVER COMKE
  • till you learn to be active and participative in action PURUSHARTHA you will reamain CURSED .. if you ask GOD why ? he will say YOU HAVE NOT LEARNT to do action that is your destiny [ not the curse ]
  • I dont know if memebers are understanding the suxma concept
  • In mahabarata YUDHISHTHIR actually asks this question TO BHEESHMA what is more imporatnt DAIVA or PURUSHARTHA .. BHEESHMA says the LATER .. why BECAUSE DAIVA is our past karma it has elapsed .. what is there in our HANDS is PURUSHARTHA .. so one must always concentrate on PURUSHARTHA .. for that one must FOLLOW the dharma As given in SHASTRA and not self determine PURUSHARTHA
  • DHARMA ARTH AKAAM MOKSHA are chaturvidh purushartha .. its not a silly question but most difficult to answer
  • JAY your question is very good ..... BUT answer is in SUPREMACY of VAYU among SOUL and what kind of UPAKAAR he does ON US ... ITs VAYUDEV who brings people on right track ... BUT when ? when One gets vexed with self efforts and surrenders his progress to HIM VAYUDEV ... as long as SOUL [ you cannot call him innocent here , he is trapped soul .. because INnocent people always get decieved .. KALI is in ever lookout for such innocents ] as long as one is reluctant to give away association of KALI .. he wil not be lifted by VAYUDEV .. the moment having got tired of efforts , when he raises his hand and says oh vayudev SAVE ME .. HE WILL NOT GET upliftment
  • EITHER ONE IS IN groip OF kali OR in grip OF vayudev THERE IS NO INTERMITTENT STATE !!
  • kv THAT IS NOT RIGHT .. based on our current performance our next births are fixed .. BUT there is still performance left over the life .. its enough to change the course of events in coming days .. WHAT DOES BHAGAVAT SAY .. PARIKSHIT asks CAN I attain something IN SEVEN DAYS ... SUKA says there are people who have attained moxa in muhurta
  • the entire creation is MERCY of LORD VISHNU seeing the PLIGHT of SOUL ... so LORD is merciful .. BUT soul is GNANAMAY it is made up of KNOWLEDGE if this KNOWLEDGE OF SELF is not realised .. and KNOWLEDGE of VISHNU is not reailised the he will not get out of trp that is HARI SANKALAPA ... and for this one must gain knowledge
  • there us sheath of igbnorance on SOUL .. this layer of ignorance increases with SINS [ knowingly unknowingly you cannot give exxcuse of innocense ] and it becomes loosened and transparent with PUNYA .. and it becomes deepta with RIGHT knowledge ... so this eexcercise should be done consciously to gain RIGHT knowledge through PUNYAS ...
  • LOOKING for right GURU is first step .. this comes by many baths in rivers .. and listening to shastra ... by scholars .. so one must do nadi snana teertha yatra and cleanse mind and then listen to shastra .. and seek a right guru ..
  • BUT HOW to realise VISHNU knowledge .. VISHNU is what ?HE is infinite AUSPICIOUS QUALITIES ..
  • whatever auspicious is there in this world like bravery , kindness . ability to SHower affection , granting all required .. ALL this qualities when you number them .. it may come as 1 2 3 .. bravery is one quality kindness another .. how many a person cvan have .. limited .. BUT LORD has such INFINITE good qualities
  • even in qualities lIKE bravery .. a person can be brave /// somebody may be more braver .. other even more .. BUT LORD is INFINITELY BRAVE .. some may be brave at some instance at other they may not v.. while in youth he may be strong in old age he may become weak .. so all are APOORNA .. BUT LORD VISHNU is POORNA brave at all times without interruption and always INFINIUTE
  • nobody is equal or GREATER than VISHNU as all are having defects [ defcts like death disease old age incompletness and depemndency ]
  • VISHNU has no defects ..
  • there is one more qualkity in VISHNU he is EVER HAPPY he is embodiement of happiness .. WHAT HAPPENS when you pray INFINITELY HAPPY man .. PURUSHA you get HAPPINESS ONLY ...
  • IF you instead WORSHIP incomplete person who is OLD diseases and subject to death and unhappy YOU WILL GET ONLY UNHAPPINESS ..
  • EVERYONE can know VISHNU only to his limited capacity ... This capacity is FXED and LORD wants us to know o the full capacity of ours
  • this effort to KNOW VISHNU to our limited capacity is the GRIND in SAMSAARA we take births again and again .. so one must strive hard to KNOW L:ORD
  • SECOND thing that arises is IF YOU KNOW VISHNU you respect him WHEN you understand his magnanimity YOU START LOVING HIM .. but thenj HAVING DEVOTION means BELIEVING IN WHAT VISHNU ORDERS and DOING it with sincerety .. THis is tougher part .. FOR this we need To KNOW what is his ORDER for us .. VISHNU dictum is VEDAS shastras .. so IF we LOVE him WE must ABIDE by VEDAS and shastra s told by HIM VEDVYASA
  • 100% abiding by shastras against all ODDS is TEST of TIME which LORD puts one into .. coming out of it clear is SUCCESS of spiritual PATH .. BUT then AT this VAYUDEV is FULL support to the SOUL
  • yes shastras if not known how can you have devotionto LORD .. plain ecstasy or hypnotic jives in trance cannot be called DEVOTION
  • you love your father .. not becuse he is your father , when you come to know that he carried you on his shoulder , he ran onto street looking for doctor just because you sneezed , or he did overtime to fulfill your desire your love affection devotion increases
  • soge about qualities of FATHER increases devotio towards him
  • when you still know YOUR father is a great man , he was so and so he had such and such quality he was praised by one and all .. you swell with PRIDE and you are more devoted to your father
  • so LORD vsihnu is known through vedas sutras PURANAS and MAHABHARATA and RAMAYANA .. where it is bombarded how LORD is merciful helps you in distress
  • by such bombardment SOUL develops faith .. VISHNU KRISHNA helped PRAHLAAD , AJAMILA , DRAUPADI GAJAENDRA all were in distress yet without seeing whether it is child or woman or animal LORD himself comkes and saves ... SOULS says OH if I do devotuion in LORD he will save me TOO
  • amrience shows HE IS SAVED too his FAITH becomes STRONGER ... but again in many situations he feels will I BE SAVED THIS time TOO .. and he ardently prays HE is saved again again anagian .. HE becomes totally free of doubt YES LORD SAVES .. on every aspect when ONe ebcomes totally CONFIDENT yes lord IS SUCH AND SUCH .. HE BECOMES A yogi
  • HELPLESS CREATURE ASKING HELP WHATS WRONG IN IT ? INFACT SAYING why SHOUDL i ASK help .. i CAN BEAR THIS PAIN IS ego
  • THE REALITY SI NO SOUL CAN BEAR pain
  • AT ONE POINT WHEN PROBLEMS COMES MAN NEVER THINKS wil god help ME .. INSTEAD HE SAYS oh god help me AND FORGETS THE PROBLEMS /...
  • but WHY DO WE GET miseries ?
  • MEMBERS CONTRIBUTE I SHALL BE BACK IN TEN MINUTES
  • jay THIS QUESTION WHO IS POWERFUL ? IS ANSWERED IN LAST DAY BATTLE OF mahabaharata .. yudhisthir AND FIVE BROTHERS GO TO THE POND AND ASK duryodhan TO COME OUTAND FIGHT
  • YUDHISTHIR says You can choose any one of us and if you win I shall return your kingdom and go to vanvasa ... BUT DURYODHAN still chooses BHEEMA ... BUT KRISHNA GIVES WHOLESOME to YUDHISHTHIR for having done such mistake of offering DURYIODHAN .. KRISHNA says HAD he chosen anyone other than BHEEMA , you would have lost all the struggle till date put to water .. KRISHNA BHEEMSEN could anyhow DEFEAT but duryodhan is full in practise and determined .... LOOK WHO IS SAYING THIS LORD HIMSELF ...
  • LORD specifically instructs all NOT to GO near DURYODHAN as defeat is certain .. INFACT ARJUN loses battle with DURYODHAN .. SO JUST SAYING IHAVE HARI KRUPA is not enough .. staying away from KALI is also IMPORTANT .. WASNT ARJUN more HARI BHAKTA ? then why KRUISHNA instructs him DID KRISHNA SAY I WILL SEE DONT WORRY just CHARGE DURYODHAN ! NO
  • why miseries come ... WHEN we have little hate towards LORD VISHNU we get MISERIES .. all of the beings harbour somekind of hate towards lORD in one way or the other .. and that makes them be born again till complete DEVOTION unmixed with hate slightest or otherwise does not go away .. one always gets misery .. more the hate more the misery ..
  • what is hate ... to VISHNU .. NAVAVIDH DWESHA in any form is hate towards LORD ..
  • what are navavidh dwesha , puranasexplain them in detail
  • can anyone enumerate navavidh dwesha
  • MAHBAHARAT as explained by MADHWACHARYA doesnt agree ... with your conclusion .. DID KRISHNA WASTE TIME in chiding YUDHISTHIR .. does GOD give futile ADVICES ?
  • every word that comes out fo LORD's mouth is SHASTRA a lesson to humans .. by chiding YUDHISTHIR KRISHNA MAKES it amply clear that ACTIONS should be PRACTICAL and in accordance with LORD's scheme and not on ecstasy OH OKAY he will save me .. let me jus keep quiet or do anything .. that is precisely LORD says DO action AS I intend not as YOU think
  • study is important but under a guru self study serves no purpose .. MADHWA shastra isnot that easy ... BUT following it tooth and nail lindly will ensure happiness for sure .. lindly VAYUDEV doesnt allow he will make senses rise automatically
  • NAVAVIDH DWESHA INCLUDES EQUATING lord WITH OTHERS , THINKING OTHERS CAN ALSO GIVE SIMILAR RSULTS Like VISHNU .. VISHNU IS JUST HUMAN IN AVATARAS ..THERE CAN BE SOMEONE BETTER , THERE IS NONE AT ALL , ALL ARE SAME , NOTHING NESS , ALL THESE ARE FORMS OF hate
  • THEY LEAD TO MISERIES AGAIN AND AGAIN .. NOT ONLY IN THIS BIRTH BUT AFTER DEATH TOO THEY GIVE NARAKA
  • SVADHYAYA IS LEARNING REPEATING WHAT IS LEARNT UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF GURU
  • PRATYAHAAR IS FOR CONTROLING SENSES AND MIND .. IT IS REGULAR PRACTISE
  • NO IT IS DONE THROUGH PANCHKOSHA SADHNA
  • SADHANA PAGE IS SAD HISTORY ,, NO ONE WANTS TO PROGRESS AT ALL .... ITNA SLOW MOVEMENT THIS IS SURPRISING
  • next month
  • shubha ratri
  • dukha s not part of swarupa
  • swaroopa is not experienced during initial stages of samsaara but in sleep yes
  • yes
  • dukha of satvika soul is not like tamas .. dukha of satvika is only inability to express its own sukha ..
  • say you have x meters of space to express or relax ... and you have occupied it [ ie swaroop sukha has comeout over x mtrs in mind ] suddenly a daitya occupies x-10 mtrs in your mind .. now you thought entire x mind was yours but now you have only 10 mtrs pf space to express and inability to expres in rest that is dukha it is SANKUCHIT AVASTHA ..
  • shubha ratri
  • karma is not in swaroopa .. it is in linga deha .. and external punya can come just as punya that is yet to be done by us comes

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