Bhagavadgeeta

• Usually MAdhwas have training from the childhood that PARAMATMA is different different from Jeeva ...So there cannot be at anytime doubt over the issue ..I was no exception ...
• But then as we grow up we meet all kinds of scholars .. some moderate ,some liberals ,some very staunch .... Some moderates tried to impress upon that , actually the philosophy is a flow of thought and evolves with time ., SO what SANKARA propounded was actually improved upon by RAMANUJA and then ultimately refined by MADHWACHARYA .... so while we need not look down upon advaitis , it can be just taken as another philosophy , the actual show down with ADVAITA and others is just a an extention of narrowminded fundamentalist attitude
• at an impressionable age we do think CAN that be true ? but again we enter school and are bombarded with Gandhian philosophy and also high romanticising of DESH BHAKTI . freedom fighters and Independence struggle ... suddenly these make you think are so many people fantasizing ?
• Bhagadgeeta STARTS with a question BY ARJUN ... IS it really necessary to FIGHT for the sake of KINGDOM [ ie enjoyments power etc ] or just give UP for the sake avoiding MASS MASSACRE ?
• All along Krishna says FIGHT that is DHARMA .. and here we have schools bombarding AHIMSA the MKG way ... and the GRAND NS thought give up something for the greater cause ... WHAT WRONG is ARJUN doing ... ?
• Then many also have a romantic thought of WHY evil should not be given a chance ? will they not improve ? ARJUn also seems to be indicating that what IF kaurava rule . what difference would that make ... is the world going to change by this WAR .. why not let me accumulate knowledge and attain NIRVANA
• WITH constant scholastic BOMABARDMENT .. VIVEKANANDA seems a great hero ... Ramakrishna seems a Great saint ... AROBINDO a philosopher and RAMANA a preacher ....VINOBA a great social worker .. Then all are ADVAITIS ...
• SO a thought occured lets see what SANKARA has to say about Bhagavdgeeta ?
• when seen It comes across that SANKARA finds it extremely difficult to reconcile his philosophy with BHAGAVADGEETA ..
• and unable to reconcile the DICHOTOMY in sankara interpretation becomes more and more obvious ...BUT if we leave common sense backyards and GIVE extra importance to the EXTRA LARGE image of SANKARA built up by Romantic heroes like VIVEKANANDA RAMANA etc ... it seems ver dichitomy is the message of BHAGAVD GEETA
• SANKARA seems to divide the bhagavdgeeta as two different rendering ONE FOR the unrealised and another for realised .. This becomes more obvious as VIVEKANANDA etc write their interpretation of BG ... they seem to toy with the idea that its better to follow the ways of realised and unrealised way is only for apprentices
• The views propagated by the ADVAITI is total difference 180 out of phase sadhana for SANKHYA YOGI and KARMA YOGI ...
• Arjuna seems to ask OH KRISHNA In one instance you praise the JNANA knowledge and then in the second instance You praise the KARMA .. YOu seem to be confusing .. WHEN JNANA marga is shrehstha [high superior ] then WHY are you pushing me into WAR [ karma ] where the possibility of raag dwesha attachments hate , are high ... [ in jnana marga one can just be elusive of such attachments and leave the world ] ....
• WHILE in reality LORD KRISHNA seems to be solving the querries of ARJUN ... BUT SANKARA interpretation seems to be fortifying the very QUERY of ARJUN ... it leaves one high and dry without actually getting the solution to ARJUn's query thru that interpreatation ... infact SAnkara adds to confusion by dissecting the entire bhagavad geeta as KARMa yoga and JNANA yoga .. VIVEKANANDA like a modern scientist , who relishes the thought of adding his contribution to previous thought [ just for the sake of it ] adds RAJA YOGA to it
• August 14, 2012 at 7:57am
• MEDITATION seems to be the is all be all funda of religiousness is what NEO ADVAITIS seems to impress
• Then there is ashtavakra geeta which says KARMA is itself the root cause of Suffering .. and just ZERO in your KARMA ..and you would free /.... People influenced with this philosophy DO NOTHING ... they just idle out ...
• On the whole Bhagavadgeeta in its interpreted FORM seems a varied TEXT driving inaction ... BUT anybody with common sense can sense that LORD KRISHNA is speaking about ACTION ... and its ARJUNA who is showing inaction ... IF BHAGAVADGEETA is speaking about inaction , then does it require 700 odd shlokas and detiled dialogue to JUST SAY ARJUN YOU ARE RIGHT Inaction is BETTER ...
• In the market in the BHAGAVDGEETA one gets only inaction discourse ... So I normally do not advice anyone to read bhagavdgeeta to begin a spiritual journey .. BHAGAVDGEETA should be read at the fag end of spiritual journey .. It answers many a doubts that arises in the journey . but if one has not treaded the journey how would one know what is the doubt and what answer is actually intending
• Bhagvad geeta is not a text in isolation , it has a background of BHAGAVAT and Pancharatra
• It is only MADHWACHARYA who highlights this text as philososphical exposition ...
• Superficial reading of bhagavadgeeta , what it does ? it gives rise to many many doubts ..... with no solution around it creates a wreck .. HOW ? a striking verse is "KARMANYEva ..." ... when one is introduced to Bhagavadgeeta with this verse ... The first question is can I get away with any karma ... Which KARMA shoud I do ... What is desire .. IS desire legitimate ? SANKARA bhashya does not answer any of these in clear terms , it infact gives Vipareeta gyana
• the fact that it is not a simple text which can be read in isolation becomes more evident because MADHWACHARYA has written two commentaries on IT ... why two commentaries ?
• Whats the great fortune we have in knowing the Works of MADWACHARYA is it legitimises many of the emotions , which otherwise with SANKARA bhashya makes one feel guilty about
• I have spent most part of my life [ till date ] with an encounter or two with evil people .. mostly sitting in position of power ... Looking at them sundarkand words of .. durmad , full of garva .. anger .. dambha .. becomes a real sight ...
• I have mars in 2nd ... the striking feature is one will be very stubborn .. a stubborn person when he has leo ascendant he just doesnt accept anyones authority ..[without legitimate reason ] in the least on the brute force ...
• This makes one get a first reaction of anger when one encounters a durmad person .... NOW the first thing a philosophical spiritual person would ask is IS MY ANGER JUSTIFIED .. mean not an interaction has started .. but just based on LAXAN shastra I am enforcing anger .. There is clash of EGO ... MAN is in power and we are normal ..the immediate outcome is direct CONFLICT .. This conflict which people in surrounding have found unnecessary .. nearly always criticised me ..as to what is the need for expressing such an ANGER ..
• The repeated conflicts makes one THINK AM i right ? is anger okay ?
• WITH question in mind ONE CAN actually not express anger too freely .. that is even more worse
• To add to woes SANKARA call it all a useless feature ..
• One has a feeling with these kubhashyas that emotions have no meaning at all ...
• and then whole life the world as we see seems to be a big burden to live ..
• BUt then are emotions like anger , vatsalya , useless .. we see no answer from texts
• BUT MADHWACHARYA as it is said in SUMADHWAVIJAYA .. the first reaction that he gives as he is born on earth , is everywhere people engaged in AVISHNAV acts .. completely immersed in sins .. so he feels like taking his gada mace once again and teach everyone a lesson .. THE ANGER he exhibits ... and then the authr says THIS IS LEGITIMATE .. now I ahve no calms about showing my anger .. what a relief .. And there is ANANDA in it ... FROm every angle MADHWA gives only happines
• BUT then anger we can harbour .. but when we do not have enough strength to counter these durmada evils .. WHAT SHOULD WE DO ?
• Go to SANKARA he will say ..what is evil what is good . its all mithya .. see yourself IN the DURMADA .. BUt that is not truth , I am nOT DURMADA
• SO SANKARA bhashya at every step and every doubt only misleads rather worsens the situation
• BUt then a thought occurs OKAY i amy be unable to see SELF in DURMADA , does ADVAITI see it .. may be he sees , ,may be he is more evolved person ?
• ANd this doubt always remains a doubt .... BECAUSE then try to offend the most calm sadhu type ADVAITI and he resorts to ABHICHARA ...
• By the time you realise the preachers of Calmness are nevr calm but most violent ... and worst of violent .. the collateral damage has already taken place
• Yes ADVAITI is evil hypocrite ,, its not just a good idea to think that they are just a philosophy and rendred IMPROVISATION by RAMANUJA and MADHWA
• Advaita bashing seems like talibanisation of MADHWA BUT I say MADHWA philosophy is more than that .... thats why people fear a real MADHWA
• Then GANDHISM has taken so much toll ... That I have anger .. BUT I will not exhibit ... I dont like durmada .. I am weak .. ask many madhwas what would you do .. They say what can we do ? DOES our sidhdhant give us any protective GEAR ... OH you mean VAMAMARGA .. NO NO NO ... is it real No o FEAR or lack of such practise
• If someone is solely dependent upon scholars of the day .. then it would eems its just a fate to see such durmada , be angry rather fret in mind and take the events as it is .. NO solution ..
• what to do , you cannot fight and go down as martyr .. and that is not recommended either ... nor can we keep quite without fretting
• Then one must read NARAYAN ashtakshar nyasa ..
• what is this NYASA .. IT says KRUDDOLKAYA NAMAHA ....
• WHO is KRUDDOLOKA ... ? what does He do ? what is the phala of the meditation of Kruddolak
• ONE who is like ULKA to a KRUDDA .. who is krudda .. a durmada evil is krudda ... and LORD is LIKE thunderbolt blazing meteorite like to THESE TAMOYOGYAS .. meditation on KRUDDOLAK gives victory ie it manifests the anger ... the durmad bows
• Then I see and meet many a people who are just indifferent whatevr we talk about GOD .. they seem to be engrossed in their own world ... If you say HARI .. achcha aisa likha hai .. wah bahut achche ... kal ka prograame kya hai .. ? YOu get angry .. these are evil .. BUT are NS .. BUT ten SHUD i show my anger .. or cut my relation with hIM .. THIS way I WILL GET ISOLATED ... BUt then I want some result I want him to respect my view ., bow and JUST BOW even if he means or not BOW
• How do I do it . LORD is known as VEEROLKAYA // here veera is NS and lord is like a thunderbolt to them ..and keeps on causing fear and resentment in them ...
• when satvikas go astray one gets angry .. but then can we just regulate them .. NO ,,, MAHOLKAYA namaha ... one who is like a great LIGHT for the SATVIKAS ... LORD will bring them to good path , our JOB is to meditate on these rupas when we see such people and get angry
• SO there is SOLUTION to every kind of PROBLEM in MADHWA sidhdanta ... PROBLEMS are REAL ... solution is desperately needed on REAL terms ... The relief from SOLUTION is real .. The happiness is REAL that MAKES WORLD REAL ... ONLY MADHWA can teach us that
• Its MADHWACHARYA who says .. GET HAPPY first know what is HAPPINESS and then try to KNOW real HAPPINESS ie KRISHNA ... once known everything else seems secondary
• MADHWACHARYA gives legitimacy to the THOUGHT of being HAPPY .. how beautiful LIFE then becomes ... WE live a full LIFE ..
• yes
• He gives explanatory notes to those verses which have been wrongly percieved earlier ad then in another he enhances with pramanas
• RAYARU has written
• Sreedevi Chulki share the highlights of discourse
• ramesh anusandhan is right ...
• FOR KAMAL suddenly life has a aim VISHNU and PREETI
• Karamanyeva " I think cannot be explained by one who has no considerable spiritual progress .... the every concept of desire , karma and phala , nishkaam , bhagavadarpana ... if only this is all about it .. THEN entire BHAGAV geeta seems to be just a
• without proper discourse it always creates much jignyasa ... the result if one is not prepared to study continuously it leaves one high and dry ... Tackling bhagavad geeta just as the introductory text . naturally will lead to skip detailed analysis

Retrograde Planets

• Why do planet appear to be retrograde ..ie move backwards ? while moving backwards and again moving forward they become Stationary , what is the rational behind being stationary ?
• The Bhchakra is revolving around the earth ...that is denoted by circle one [inner circle in top image ...the outer circle is the motion of planet mars ...The numbers 1.2.3.4.5.6.7 are the variable motion of the bhachakra and mars .. at given instance 1 2 3 4 5 6 ...
• as visible from EARTH
• let us project these points onto a plane [ as seen from earth ] ... at point 1 of bhachakra [zodiac] corresponding point on the track of motion of mars projects as 1 on the plane .. similarly 2 , 3 also projects linearly ... at point 4 the motion of mars differs with motion of zodiac .. the projected point is now little behind the point 3 ... so also point 5 and at point 6 is again linearly head of point of 3 ...and so also 7 is head of 6 ... this gives a feeling of backward motion and forward motion to the onlooker on earth when he fixes the position of mars wrt zodiac ...
• bhachakra point goes ahead ... say mars in aries 20deg ,, and then point 20 deg aries itself moves ahead then mars seems oving backwards becuase then mars wil be at 19 deg aries
• yes bhachakra moves at 18.5 miles /sec and mars at 15 miles per sec
• In surya sidhdhanta .. the retrograde of MARS is given as Sigrocchha - Mars = 164 deg .... that means when Mars is 164 deg from sigroccha [ usually mean position of SUN ]
• when a planet turns RUJU from VAKR gati ... it becomes stationary for a moment ... this can be seen from the image 2
• Let M be the mean position of the planet [ mean position is the point that actually revolves around the earth ...] and let P be the actual true position of PLANET . [ this point P is on a circle which is epicycle of the planet
• ruju means direct
• The radius of the epicycle is 'z' and let E point be earth ..and S be Sun
• Surya siddhant says 164 deg .. this is given to astrologers .. that is jnana .. but what vigyana behind it rationale behind this 164 deg given in SURYASIDHHANTA ... ?
• iF 'n' is the mean daily motion of the SUN , "t " be the number of the days since Sun 'S" was at the first point of ' ARIES " ................. let angle
• thus dL/dt = n - dy/dt +dx/dt
• PM = z [ radius of epicycle ] EM= r [ radius of mean motion of planets ie mars ] bith z and r are constants
• MQ = z cos y
• PQ = z siny
• EQ= EM + MQ = r + z cos y
• tan x = PQ / EQ = z sin y / (r +cosy )
• x= taninverse [ z siny /( r+ z cosy ) ]
• dx /dt = (dy/dt ) (z^2 + rz cos y )/ ( r^2 + z^2 + 2rz cos y )
• now substitute the above equation in dL/dt = n- dy/dt + dx/dt
• dL/dt = n + dy/dt [ ( z^2 +rz cos y ) / (r^2 + z^2 + 2rz cos y) ]
• If n is the daily motion of SUN and n` is the daily motion of PLANET and C is some constant ... then y = ( n-n` ) (t+C) so dy/dt =(
• substituting this is the equation dL/dt
• dL/dt = [nz^2 + n`r^2 +rz (n+n`) cos y ] / [ r^2 + z^2 + 2rz cos y ]
• when the pLANET has to become Stationary ... dL/dt = 0
• ie nz^2 + n`r^2 +rz (n+n`)cos y = 0
• so cos y = - ( nz^2 + n` r^2 ) / rz (n+n`)
• In case of MARS .. n= 0.98560265 deg and n`= 0.5240193deg , z= 233.5 deg , r =360 deg substituting these in equation .. ..........cos y = -0.9586391
• y= 180 - cosinvers [ 0.9586391 ]
• y= 163.4636 and SURYASIDHDHANTA says y= 164
• The MODER ASTRONOMY gives cos y = - [ a^1/2 ]/ [a -a ^1/2 +1 ] where a is the mean distance between sun and the planet in astronomical units .. one astronomical unit is distance between earth and sun
• for mars modern astronomy y = 163.215 ... suryasidhdhant y= 164 drik sidhdhant y= 163
• SO CAn we say VEDIC SCHOLARS were AWARE OF TRIGONOMETRY AND CALCULUS
• so science which is heavily dependent on modern mathematics can be said to be something new OR repeat telecast of AGEOLD ?
• Surya siddhanta / modern astronomy values for various planets to become retrograde . when their seeghrakendra are .. kuja =164 / 163.215 ..... budha = 144 /144.427 jupiter = 130 /125.565 venus = 163 /167.005 saturn =115/114.466
• the greter difference can be seen in jupiter and venus ...
• Vijay Jain d is derivative
• what could be the reason this knowledge of deep mathematics evaporated from continent that we read TRIGONOMETRY and calculus as something discovered by WESTERN mathematicians .. and no teacher in the school ever says yes It was KNOWN .. ?
• IS this thread a bouncer ?
• Vijay the image is two dimension and lateral projection .. kindly imagine it as above earth and projection into sky ..
• yes there is change in elongation of signs itself of zoiac at north pole
• mm
• arey abhi nahi kya maine poora equation likha isko kya means ki jarorat hai ... its maths ... ganit hai .... bhagvaan bade ganitagnya hai ...
• vidhyadhar
• Publishing will not help ... madhwa bramhins should know them and take up jypotishya .. for all purpose maths is astronomy ... and useful for jyotishya ... because many bramhins left learning jyotishya and average brains became panchangakartas .... we have lost mathematics ... to such an extent that .... when europeans starting teaching as our own subject .. we thought its a great invention and something we never knew about .. THIS pitiable state of education is because ..of bramhins not keen to learn jyotishya and do manan on it /.
• the very sine is itself a series .. if you want to calculate sine or cosine , you use series
• Higher mathematics is just concepts , in schools and college conceots are never told , but one is expected to learn the formulaes .. which seems useless and unineteresting
• for example z=x+iy .... now why in the world do we require i a complex number .... most wont know
• but if we are told that these are representation of signals ..then the concept becomes inetresting and useful
• But vedic teachings do not stick to symbolism ,, it teaches concepts directly .. a vedic guru gives very secret sciences in direct manner
• all those who are good at maths , should try to find out how these answers have come ... they should solve them in their rough notes to appreciate the planetary motion
• there are may such applications .. like fiding equation of time . true positions of sun and moon .. apparent\\
• the actual terminologies in sanskrit are ... seegra , koti phala dohaphala sphutakoti ..seeghrakarna ////seeghrakarna [hypoteneuse ] = sqrroot {( sphutakoti)^2 + (Dohaphala )^2 }
• no maths no jyotish ! No jyotish no MOXA
• A modern astronomer feels a vedic astrologer does not ahve understanding of ,athematics of planetary MOTION as he sees through his telescopes ... WHAT can we say about these pseudospacescientists ......
• August 11, 2012 at 12:36pm
• there will be two solutions for dL/dT=0 // y= 164 and y=360 -164 = 196 so planet becomes ruju after 196 deg ... it remains retro in between 164 and 196 ... these are degrees of seeghrakendra of mars and not longitudes of mars /... ongitude is found out by its position inepicycle an then corresponding center of epicycle ..
• epicycle is wrt to DHRUVA .. allplanets are tied to DHRUVA , the tailend of SHimshumaar ..
• yes all planets have epicycle
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Krishna Ashtami

• Sept 8th is not correct .... KRISHNASHTAMI always should be celebrated in shravan masa only ... there are many pramanas for it ... LET ME GIVE SOME ...
• THERE SEEMS TO BE A OPINION THAT KRISHNASHTAMI AND JAYANTI ARE TWO DIFFERENT VRATAS ,, Krishnashtami is nitya not doing krishnashtami will lead to hell ...and other lesser births ...
• bhavishyottar purana - ShravaNe bahuLe pakshe KrishNa janmashtamivratam | na karoti naro yastu bhavati brmaharakshasah | shravan krishna ashtami tithi is krishnashtami vrata , a [erson who does not do this vrata becomes bramha rakshasa ... [ so it is nitya vrata ] ..... To indicate that there may be another day vrata [ like sept 8 this year ] if one does that another vrata leaving krishnashtami shrvana [ like the aug 9th night this year ] such a person will not get any result [phala ] of all the punya karua like building water tanks ,yagnya or will not get result of any other vrata niyam upavasa .... the relevant verse is " KrishNajanmaShtami tyaktva yoanyad vratamuPoshayet | napnoti sukrutam kinchishtapoortamathapiva ||"
• a woman who does not do Krishnashtami vrata every year [ it is compulsory for everyone ] , such a sinner will become wild animal in dense forest
• Sanatkumar samhita - " ShravaNasya ch masasa krishNashtamyaam mayanagh | RohiNi yadi labhyate jayanti naam sa tithi " ..... Sanatakumar samhita quotes , that shravana month is month for Krishnaashtami ... if this day is inclusive of rohini star then it is called jayanti ..
• Skanda purana - prajapatyena samyukta ashtami tu ya bhavet |ShravaNe bahuLe sa tu sarvapaappraNashini || jayam punyasa kurute jayantityena taam viduh ||
• saknada also says that it is shrvana masa ashtami if inclusve of rohini it becomes jayanti ...
• Bhrigu RIshi says " janmashtami jayanti ch shivaratistathaiva ch poorvaviddhauva kartavyaa tithichante ch paraNam iti " that janmashtami jayanti shivratri all these vratas have to be celebrated on the day when there is previous tithi vedha .. ie saptami vedha fo ashtami .. that means the whole day in morning should be saptami and in the night ashtami should appear .. the moonrise will be arghya time for KRISHNAHTAMI .. if rohini s also there at time it becomes JAYANTI ..
• SO WHERE DOES THIS 8th SEPT confusion arise ?
• SRIMADANAND teertha says - " rohinyamardhratre tu yada kalashtami bhavet jayanti naam sa proktah sarvapaappraNashini "
• Rohini with kalashtami at midnight is jayanti ...
• PADMA purana says .. even if one gets one muhurta on ashtami in krishna paksha along with rohini , one must do upavasa
• IN mahabharata tatparyanirnay ACHARYA says " yasminnabde Bhadrapade sa MAAS " it says bhadrapada masa is krishNA Jayanti
• VishNudharmottar Purana says " RohiNi sahita krishNamaasi BhadrapadeashtaMi | saptamyaamardhratre tu kala vaapi yada bhavet | saivoposhya iti Bhadrapad KrsihNashtami Jayanti ityuktah || here there seems to be clear instructions of Bhadrapada masa being the Krishna shtami and jayanti
• So some say since it is MAdhwacharya who says Bhadrapada masa and vishnu dharmottar purana also says bhadrapada .. one must celebrate jayanti krishnashtami in bhadrapada
• In dharma Shastra , the vakya [ the instruction ] which goes against many pramanas should be reconciled ... Here MADHWACHARAYA says Bhadrapa masa / and bahuvaakya virodha possibility is there as , sanyasa paddhati says ... rohiNi sahita Krsihna mase SHRAVANE ashtami | jayanti naam saprokta mahapatak nashini " leaving no doubts that even jayanti is also in SHRAVANA .. then there is sanatakumar samhita . bhavishyottar purana , skanda purana padma purana .. so many vakya virodha is possible ./. SO SRIMADANANDA teertha and Vishnu Dharmottar purana sentence must be reconcilied ... what is reconciliation ..There is a tradition of calling a month from the pratipada after Porrnima .. ie after SHravan poornima , the pratipada is called as Bhadrapada pratipada so shravan krishNa ashtami is also called as Bhadrapada ashtami ... in North India this tradition is active ..so by taking this ashtami in this way " saapi pourNimasya masaan sampadya iti " Smritimuktavali author says there will be no contradiction in what MADHWACHARYA says and what purnas says .. thus Krishna ashtami is SHRAVAN bahulaAshtami only
• PADMA purana says .. even if one gets one muhurta on ashtami in krishna paksha along with rohini , one must do upavasa ***
• NO one must never celebrate in bhadrapada masa ...
• Vasudev
• yes vishnu teerthiya says simha mase .. but there is pramaNA which says simha masa is paryay shabda for Shravana masa only
• Smrutimuktavali says " Skaande praashikayaam smrutikaustubhecha Shravan maassyaiva simhamaas vyavahaaraat ek vaakyatva mityuktam || " skanda puraNa prakashika smruti kaustubh have declared shravan masa as simha masa , there is no virodha to vishnuteerthiya vachan
• shravan masa is chaandramaan .. simha masa sauramana .. but whenever there is cross ref .. simha masa of saurmana refres to shravana masa of chaandramaana
• NO not vice versa because then ashtami tithi which is salient feature of chandramaan will also lose its meaning .. because saura ashtami will be that day when sun is 8degrees .. if sauramana takes precedence ... and we do not see such tradition .. we see saptami viddha ashtami from chandramana onl
• IS RAAM NAVAMI celebrated on NAVAMI or PUNARVASU nakshatra .? what is the age old tradition here ... Krishna ashtami is important , if rohini also accompanies it becomes JAYANTI . SO shravan Krishna ashtami is to be celebrated ...
• Tithi ashtami for Krsishnashtami should be saptami viddha .. ie ashtami at midnight is more important here and saptami in the morning at suryodaya is considered as apt ... so tithi nirnay here is little different .... Wednesday Rohini ashtami at midnight makes it even more shreshtha ..
• The interpreatation of dharma shastra should be such that ...there should be no violation of prabala vakya ... [ the strong dictum ] when many strong dictums are available then that must be followed .. a prabala dictum is still heavy on many weak dict
• Here pramanaas for sharvan masa ashtami is greater in all puranas .. but MAdhwacharya says bhadrapada .. so there is bahuvakya virodha for a strong dictum of MADHWACHARYA .... so we have to see reconciliation .. AND LUCKILY in this case we have recon
• NOW // simha masa is one where simha rashi sankramana will be there ... see such sankramana takes place in sharvana masa only ... even this year ..
• at the time of YUGADI in the beginning of KALIYUGA ... sun was in ARIES ... mesha masa .... BUT we see that we celebrate YUGADI .. even when SUN is in pisces and chiatra masa PADYAMI comes as MOON enters ASHWINI ... now one does not wait for sun tp enter MESHA and then next padyami is observed as YUGADI ... is not seen ...
• MADHWACHARYA is saying at the TIME of KRISHNA janma .. surya was in simha masa .. and also jupiter ...
• MADHWACHARYA is saying at the TIME of KRISHNA janma .. surya was in simha masa .. and also jupiter ...
• Vasudeva bhat said , they are following madhwacharya and vaadiraja tradition ,but there is no pramaana ..for that .. they must show a panchanga of 1600 ad .. to prove that ..in between , the udupi mutts have chnaged their panchanga , to drika , attribu
• the words which are in coherence with smriti even in tamas purana are considered satvik .... like most of the quotes acharya gives to justify dvaita also occur from SKANDA purana ... now here the words are pertaining to krishna ashtami .. and the words reconcile with sanatkuamar samhita which is satvik
• tithi gives prosperity , nakshatra increases decreases sins ...... people usuall look forward to prosperity ....
• 9th august night . ..
• fast tommorrow . parane after 12.45 , sick pregnant and others can have phalahaar after midnight ....
• Suresh , if ayush homa has to be done , one uses nakshtra ..
• pooja should be done in morning , evening ..night , BUt arghya at 11.49 pm... with sandal paste flowers milk ,and water coins ..
• August 8, 2012 at 7:49am
• yes fast can be broken at 8 .15 am
• purashcharane can be done tommorrow
• yes krishnattotar shatnaam mantra will give more phala ... shesha rushi ..anushtup chandha
• There is one more verse which should put the 8th sept controversy to rest ... " ashwayuk krishnapakshe tu shraddham karyam dine dine | maasi bhadrapade ashtamyaam krishNapaksheardharatrake || this verse states bhadrapada krishnashtami and ashwayuj pitr
• Sameer was asking why there cannot be common thinking among all madhwas .. this thread is live example of why it cannot be so ..INITIALLY the thread was opened to know what is what .. then for and against arguments took place ... and then when sufficie
• Nandita Rao , everybody can take phalahar after midnight accoding to skanda purana
• yes you can hear ...

IS ASTROLOGY A DEFINITIVE SCIENCE ?

• WHAT IS MEANT BY DEFINITIVE ?
• LEts take a example , SUN in seventh house , woman is deserted by the husband ...... ... NAla damayantu many example ... NOW when you see SUN in seventh can an astrologer confidently say the subject will be deserted .. CAN THAT BE DEFINITIVE ?
• SO how can Astrologer be definitive in prediction / is it right to say meri jabaan paththar ki lakeer ?
• Okay .. lets put it like this ... JUST for a moment think we have never studied MADHWACHRYA's MBTN ... THEN whole MAHABHARTA is indefinitive .. we cannot conclude what is what ... THEN enter MBTN the samw Mahabharta is now definitive ... WHAT is the moral of the story ?
• so for every science there is definitive "decryptor"
• As MAhabharta becomes a difficult text to comprehend unless one knows Tartamya ... so knowledge of Tartamya is decryptor ...
• so also knowledge of Taartamya of phala [results of karma ] is very necessary to know astrology .... BUt then its is said absolute tartamya of Phala of graha chaara only BRAMHA alone knows ..
• accordingly tartamya from bramha downwards everyone knowls leser and lesser about future ..
• The knowldege of definitiveness is kept secret and more and more generalised versions are transmitted in lower cauldrons
• was karna better than arjun .. if tartamya not known .. it is indefinitive ... When proving Rudra dev as inferior we say VAYU overtook his boons ... BUt then Ther is incident where BHEEMSEN doe not overtake boon to ...Jyadrath so it become sindefinitive .. BUT when TARTAMYA is know it BECOMES definitive and ver easy tooo ... minus tartamya it is impossible nd indefinitive ? what say ?
• So Tartamya [ madhwa sidhdanta is very secretive science ] ... when you have it and and then look at others who do not have it .. YOU EXPRESS surprise at why they feel so much indefinitive about all this ...
• NOW should this secret TARTMA if you go on making public .. shout on top of your mouth to the world HEY ! i have known a secret , TARTAMYA by MADHWACHARYA ! why all of you are suffering , take this pill TARTAMYA nd become srvagnya ! ..... BUT PEOPLE WILL LAUGH AT YOU , lagta hai iska khisak gaya !!!
• SO even if you make a secret public it doesnt fetch any result .. BUT you will look like a fool yourself ...
• SO greats say .. never let out the secret ... DONT preach MADHWA sidhdanta in public ,
• SO what should be done ? secrets should be given to only eligible souls .... if not then your own siddhi gets dissolved ...
• So many people try to write something they know just TO ANNOUNCE that THEY KNOW ... without analysing who is the recipient .. [ a mletcha . antyaj or atheist ] .... such people always go to hell
• when studying astrology you struggle hard with a concept .. and never find an answer in the realm of what one studies ... and then we fall at the feet of GURU [ RAYARU ] , ad anew realm opens .." arey YEH to PATA hi NAhi tha .. aisa bhi hota hai kya ... "
• For example .. in mantrashastra , we study that , mantras can be used for becoming invincible ...one can have jaya siddhi ..with a mantra .. okay so if one has mantra he will become invincible .... then can just one mantra make me anything ? if it is s
• The thought and any amount of research will not yeild any satisfactory answer .. on the contrary you will get more vipareet gyana .. reading more on mantrashastra will also not yeild any good ..
• THEN one day we read ARJUNA was given Vaishnava mantra .. by Yudhisthir ... [ by the advise of VEDVYASA ] he was told he is invincible with this mantra .. BUT then He uses the mantra on RUDRADEVA .. Rudra nullifies it with another mantra .. HOW can RUDRADEVA NULLIFY A VAISHNAV MANTRA .?
• The mind asks and gets confused IS MANTRA a indefinitive ?it can be randomly nullified or upheld ?
• MADHWACHARYA says , there is tartamya in mantras too ... a mantra tartamya is detremined by its rushi chandas devata ... SO though the mantra devata is VISHNU for VAISHNAV mantras .. as rishi and chandas changes so also the potency of mantra .. with these there are infinite variations for a mantra .. so what ARJUNA had was a lesser in tartamya mantra which RUDRA dev used Better one ..
• OH mantras have TARTAMYA .. where can we know it .. BUT for MADHWACHARYA we cannot know ...
• without this knowledge , a petty mantrik by the street side who might have had siddhi of a bhuta thinks he can take control of complete world ...
• BUt when he encounters VAISHNAVA .. he falls flat
• BUT those VAISHNAVAS who have witnessed his powers may also feel what this PONGA pndit Vaishnav can do to him ? this is lack of knwoledge
• There is one blog by NARyandasan where he has written abut his experience ,, where a chakka sadhu who had karnapisachini siddhi .. could not get any revelations by pisacha .. as this man was chanting narsimha mantra .. SO in a trance SADHU shouted throw this man out ... he is anti ....
• Till that day even the person who was reciting narsimha mantra never knew what was its power , but the pisacha knew
• RK .. there are many levels in mantras ..one exceeds other ... so remedies should be applied as per problem .. there cannot be single solution for ll problems .. else 9 crore mantras , its existence itself would be waste .. ONE mantra would have been enough // and everyone does everything with it ..
• We have been exposed to certain mantras ..as per our yogyata ... , similarly evil will also have his yogyata ... a small vanar could not have killed INDRAJIT .. only LAXMAN could kill INDRAJIT .. thats vidhi
• according as problem one should pass on the responsibility to higher beings .. you cannot cure cancer with avillage vaidya medicine ...
• VANARs in RAMAYANa or LAxman could not have revived with local medicines .. it required SANJEEVANI only that too from gandhamadan ,, one who doesnt know sanjeevani , can such doctor cure LAXMAN ?while reading ayurveda every medicine is said to cure many diseases .. BUT again there is TARTAMYA of medicine !
• SO one shoudl approach right people
• so levels definitiveness varies with level of decryotion , if you have 256 bit decryptor you ca have info and defniteness accuracy only upto 256 bit .. ie resolution only upto 2 ^ 256 .... but then if you have more and more clarity and definiteness .. if you have better decryptor
• There is tartamaya in mantras too ... Many a times non dwija members ask .. that bramhanas can get rid of sins everyday with sandhyavandana .. how can non dwija get rid .... so there is stotra for that too ...there are stotras which give phala of yagnyas ..
• now if tartamya exists in form of mantras for category A categor B etc .. then there is TArtamya even in Category A itself ... but many non dwija have left pursuing sadhana pages ... they have saturated .., similarly women have saturated on sadhana pages ... AN ven dwijas have not progressed in this year .. last active enhancement ws in last year .... so 28 years sdhana will be covered in 28 births perhaps
• there are thousands of bramhastra and others astra tooo have many variation .. this we come to know when ARjun uses agni astra on gandharva .... gandharva asks arjun , which agniastra is this he has not witnessed one like that ? that shows there are variety of agniastra .. gadharva aks arjun to teach agni astra and in return teaches arjun the art of becoming invisible ..
• a astra when used should not be used again ..that is one rule ...IN tantrasarasangraha MADHWACHARYA says one can use the mantra mentioned there in war ... BUT then there are only few mantras how can they be used again and again as astras ? this question I asked many scholars no one was aware ... BUt then I asked RAYARU .. and I got a tantra sarasangraha vyakhyana b Vasudhendra teertharu which answered this point ...

Pranayama

• Pranayama should be done after achieving nadi shuddhi else diseases descend
• Once nadi shuddhi achived .. one can do pranayama
• Rechak poorak kumbahk form pranayama
• Rechak is exhaling [ first with a force thrugh left and pressing rleft nostrill slowly exhaling with right nostrill ]
• purak is [ press the right nostrill with the right thumb ] inhaling through the left nostril slowly
• Kumbhak is holding the breath still for sometime ...shvasnirodh ..
• 200 ms [ ardh matra ] is the time taken for uttering a consonant ..
• time taken to utter 16 consonants should be the time for Rechak ...
• Poorak kumbhak should be twice the rechak
• Pranayama should be done atleast 12 times 24 times or 36 times .. in a single go ..
• In madhwa tradition Rechak is always done through right nostril ... BUt before that first rechak requires the inner impurities to expel ..this can happen with a force so it is said that one must exhale through left and then close left nostril so that rechaka process is natural
• when rechaka is done through left nostrill . it dispels the inner dirt .. but when you exhale from right .. it gives momentum to prana which is raised through poorak
• only at begining

Reading Chapters in Itihasa/Puranas

• Sir.. on a related note, we come across many incidents in Ramayana,Mahabharatha,Puranas, where there will be phala shruthi mentioned for certain chapters.. What is the secret behind getting the phala shruthi of these chapters ? How should we approach them ? Do we have to read the incident in sanskrit and understand ? Or does it happen by reading translations too ? How does this work ?
• reading translation will also d
• one must make a sankalpa of reading x number of chapter ... read first chapter ... complete the x number of chapters and end with last chapter .
• for example.. if we are reading the first 2 chapters of Ayodhya kaanda, then should we take sankalpa and read the first chapter of Ramayan + 2 chapters of Ayodhya kaanda + last chapter of Ramayana

why should one amass good friends ?

• What is the result [ phala ] of having many friends ? or why should one amass good friends ?
• who is friend ? aapatsu snehasanyuktam mitram ! one who keeps same affection during distress an ba times is a friend
• mitrasangraheNA balam sampadyate ! making many good friends increases strength , it leas to prosperity and happiness
• balavaan alabdha labhe prayatate ! onkly a strong engages in ammasing what is not gained yet ..
• What is prosperity ? gaining what is not gained yet , then safeuarding what has been gained .. then increasing it and then applying it for welfare ..are four important functions of propserous life .. These cannot be successfully executed without good friends ..
• wife is friend [given by god ] who keeps company in OLD age !
• hmm thousand wives ...!
• And Hrishikesh sings " nanha munha rahi hun ved ka sipahi hun bolo mere sangh JAIhendathi ! "
• homa with red flowers will give good friends
• thid house and 11th house

Rayara Punya

• How much of RAYAR punya will be sufficient for us ?
• couples go to Tirupati .. they bring a big Tirupati laddoo [ slp] ... when they reach home , while taking laddo among family members , some laddoo churna [ small specs] fall on the ground .. and we see ant-couples dragging it to their homes , even they get lot of punya by the grace of SRINIVASA ...
• BUT looking at the ant couples and their zeal ,[ if they crave for more ] if the entire laddo falls on them will they survive ? can they bear it ? so as much as we can afford ! one should get only as much one can actually carry ... and not aspire beyond capacity !
• RAYARU has a gigantic LADDOO [slp slp slp ] .... even if rayaru .. showers few specs [left overs -chidakna ] those sweet laddoo we can survive for entire for whole life along with our family ...
• Viju DASARu says Bimba kasam , others say meri kasam , some sa ma kasam , mere bahchon ki kasam ... all take kasam of what is most dear to them ... have you ever seen anybody saying PATNI kasam
• In allmost entire philosophical literateur , we find statements prohibiting a repeat telecast of sansaara ie invariably the wife children , job , food scenario ...
• BUT SHRIDA VITTHALA is first dasaru who praises his wife in his songs sayng if a WIFE can lead to APAROXA JNANA , then let me get such wife again and again for 1000 times ... [ infcat 1032 would have been apt ]
• So one need not worry ,what is his problems , how much it is , what are the levels of difficulties , what is the statistical availability of cure , One needs only a spec of RAYAR punya to alleviate ones impossible problems ...
• after giving one he gets 10 .. but ten is agaami , there is no lepa for him ..... that goes to devotees ... he is on distribution spreeee
• I do not know how much one has understood satvik punya ...
• Punya is of three types .. satvik rajas and tamas ... each is again of three types
• satvik punya leads to higher lokas like mah jana etc ..beyind swarga .. it leads to birth in very rich families fully cultured and learned ... so one autmatically becomes learned and improves birth after birth ... so happiness is for ever ... its like fairytale ending for the RAYAR bhaktas " AND THE LIVED HAPPILY FOREVER "
• that FORVER carries over to next next births as well

Good days for Operation

• Good days for safe operation ! dwitiya ,tritiya panchami , saptami, dashami , trayodashi ... tithis ... ashwini rohini ,mrugashira ,pushya , hasta , citta swati , anuradha , shravana , abhijit , dhanishtha , shatatara , nakshatras .. ravi , mangal guruvaar , and days when mars and moon are well placed !!!!!!!
• During emergency means medical emergency , it should be dhanvantari .... during emergency of shatru narsimha , parshuram more apt ... during vaada emergency vedvyasa ...
• Mohan Suswaram the more gigantic the rupa in house more austerities and more annadaana , more naivedya else difficult problems arise ....
• yes while taking decisions in life the tithi operational at the moment should be taken ... for dharma karyas tithi at suryodaya sandhya ,madhanna vyapini etc are taken as tithi for whole day .. so if tithi is trayodashi at 2 in afternoon it can be scheduled
• July 31, 2012 at 12:41pm
• No photos of large rupas should not be kept in house , you can keep it in offices etc
• Though all the rupas of LORD is capable of exhibiting all the qualities like Vedvyasa rupa can also do kamsa vadha .. narsimha rupa can do shastra rachana etc ... BUT still LOrd does a particular karya through particular rupa only and knwoledge of this
• now since { neha nanasti kinchana } has come up .... I feel like writing something on it
• The advaitis make use of this particular shruti to advance their philosophy of JAgat mithya .... HOW ?
• The shruti says { " eha nana kinchana na asti "} eha - here in parabramha , ' nana kinchan ' - any thing different [which is bhinna ] na asti - does not exist .... since nothing exist which is Bhinna from LORD so this prapanch is false , thus they justify their stance , who the ADVAITIS !
• Advaiti further says , Parmatma is true there is no dispute on this , but the world creation ' seems like ' being in him , such a 'seeming ' prapancha if it actually had been in PARAMATMA , it would have been TRUE just as PARAMATMA , BUt there is noth
• Now we start our counter logic
• lets examine a sentence " a bird is not on this tree "
• does that mean a BIRD is not there on ANY tree
• OR does the statment indicates that there is NO BIRD ANYWHERE at all
• The sentence just means bird is not there on 'THIS" tree ...
• similarly if PRAPANCHA is not there in PARAMATMA means it is not their GOD but does not at all mean that world is not there "ANYWHERE" ... If that were not so then the word "IHA" in the shruti NEha nanasti kinchana " would become a unintended word and meaningless ...
• similarly if the shruti says " there is nothing which [bhinna ] different from paramatma in paramatma " {cannot } mean what is abhinna from parmatma and there is no other things at all " ...
• Suppose ' if ' shruti [ veda ] actually meant that then the word " NANA " which is telling about many other things in existence [ that may not be in paramatma ] would become meaningless
• NOW the shruti is saying " does not exist " , does that mean , it did not exist ' earlier ' neither does it mean it will not exist ' hereafter " .... HAd that been the conveyed meaning .,. then the word " NA ' would have been sufficient ,, or along w
• break
• guruji, i had planned for tirupati 2day but cancelled at the last moment. i used to visit every poornima, but since last few months i am not able to make it due to some serious probs. what should be the reason behind it? feeling restless now.

MAnda bhagyarige dorayidu ivara seva !

• Rayar seva is only for th fortunate , others will not have inclination to do it ! ...
• Jagannatha dasaru was directed to find a apt disciple to write ending note for HARIKATHAMRUTASARA ... so he went from village to village and town to town to give lectures and finally he would ask questions on the philosophy , These gathering would be attended by many scholars in sankrit and pandits with rigourous dincharya ... but none would aptly answer the questions ...
• In one of the discourses as JAgannath dasaru raised the question , a man with beetle leaves and tobacco in the mouth and wiping the red spit with dhoti , easily answered the question ...
• The man named DASAPPA of karajagi .. was actually one immersed in vices , always running after prostitites , though a bramhin , never adered to bramhinical ways of life .. and had more dirtier habits
• Prarabdha only is responsible for such acts
• Now Jagganath dasaru arises the knowledged in this dasappa ...his words how a jnani is wrapped in dirty clothes and habits , sends shockwaves into dasappa's mind .. he realises his mistakes .. and expresses gratitude towards his wife who had actually forced him to attend the discourse of Jaganntah dasaru ...
• BUT had not DASAPPA lost his bramhantva by veshya sanga , abhaksha bhakshan etc ..
• SO how did JAgannathadasaru give him ankita of "SHRIDA VITTHALA" dasaru ?
• SO it is said , DASAPPA was asked to take up rayar seva and given padodaka .. to drink and as well as prokshana .. this revived BRAHANATva in DASAPPA by destroying all his sins ... IT was RAYAR seva that got him his aparoxa revival ... SHRIDA Vitthala dasaru wrote the phalastuti of HARIKATHAMRUTASARA
• There is no uttam prayaschitta then having RAYAR PADODAKA ... this padodaka restores all that is lost , it gives a new beginning , it revives old sadhana and takes it forward .. RAYAR seva is the ultimate in achieving what one craves for yeans for and lives for !
• ONe must do RAYAR seva to the best of his capacity , 1> those who are wealthy [ dhan bala ] should use their wealth to do RAYAR seva 2> those who are prosperous [ dravya bala ] should donate dravya ie items like vegetables , silver gold , grains ,herbs whatever they can as rayar seva 3> those who do not have above two things but yet have earnest desire to do seva , must partcipate in the utsav of rayar aradhan and serve bramhana and devotees , recite stotras , sing and dance before the Brundavana .. and make devotess happy and serve Rayaru physically ... 4> those who have knowledge should give pravachana . discourses and teach people about RAYARU and instill devotion ... ALL these will bring immense RAYAR blessings ..
• These are the preparatory days to the grand EVENT of RAYAR ARADHANA ... ALL must contribute and spend exclusive time for RAYAR seva ... ONE must make optimum use of ONCE in year event and reap complete benefits ...
• Vrunadavana and paduka are available at mantralayam inside mutt
• This is the best time to do RAYAR seva ... one must immerse into it .. plan out in advance .. take time off , reduce the burden and avocations in advance for the poorvaradhana madhyaaradhana and uttaradhana .. see to it you are free and have ample time to spend for RAYAR seva ...
• SEE what is your strength , 1> money 2> dravya [items ] 3> physical seva 4> knowledge ... and accordingly try to do seva for three days ..
• IF not atleast do japa of rayaru at home for three days ...
• BUT do it with most sincerety , it will take you many steps ahead in the spiritual jpurney , you will never be the same man/person again ...
• WHY so much stress , because . RAYAR seva is not for those whom fortunes evade , the very attempt to do seva is gateway to a GREAT FORTUNE coming your way
• ARE WE EXAGERRATING IT ? ARE WE OVERDOING something ?
• FOR THIS APAROXA JNANI DASARU says " pusi alla nana matu ! enna ane enna bimba ane ! " that what I say is not a lie , TAKE my promise ,. PROMISE OF BIMBA !
• there cannot be any better statement than this in entire philososphical lieterature .. that DASARU is giving the vaasta of his BIMBA which he is seeing ... he says LORD is testimony to it , which lORD , the lORD that is residing in his heart .. that lord that is regulating HIM .. so in away these are the words said by LORD HIMSELF with guarantee
• RKG , one can donate , one can sit at home and do japa , one can do aradhana by doing alankara to rayar photo , doing pooja and japa and then giving for bramhana bhojana .. .... one give hastodaka during the ARADHANA
• one can do NUTN VASTRA seva to RAYARU remotely .. one can do gandha seva pushpa seva ... but BRAMAHANA santarpana is best seva ..
• try to complete 1000 2000 3000 5000 10000 100000 recitals as per capacity in these three days ... it will be booster effect
• APPANACHARYA stotra upadesha if there then rayar ashtakshara upadesha is automatically there
• RAYARU doesnt see which mantra you are reciting ..he sees with what zeal you are doing seva , even pujyaya stotra will give excellent results ...
• rayaru is not done avahana ,, its vasudeva sankarshan rupa of narayana .. which is fed
• rs that is even better starting early ,. but one must do it with nishtha ... like i said give exclusivity to event .. it will give more phala
• IF one understands importance of RAYARU in ones life , he will do it as best available day in his life in a year ... RAYARU will be extra lineant in giving away his punya in these three days ... so its punya bonanaza time of the year .. just grab your share ... ONE WHO has not yet got insipiration , what can we say " MANDA BHAGYARIGE dorayadu ivara seva "
• WHy does DASARU resort to giving PROMISE of his conscience and BIMBA ,... what can be the import of such forceful PLEA ?
• because While listening to RAYR mahima , it seems all so simple , that a doubt always crops up that " with as little efforts CAN such MIRACULOUS RESULTS be had ? "
• WHile someone recites RAYAR mahima , its as if we all are in some fantasy land ... or the feeling is as if someone is weaving a make believe world ... once the discourse ends .. people would get faith disturbing mood that IS IT REALLY POSSIBLE ? CAN I REALLY GET THIS ? or is it for just CHOSEN FEW ? OR IS IT ONLY FOR THE PIOUS , I am not one ? should i be actually doing it ?
• BUT then anything done with doubt does not yeild results ... Half of the time while reciting stotra or dhyana .. or japa .. one will be fighting these doubts ...
• SO to remove such doubts .. appanacharya's stotra too has at regular intervals the 'ASSURANCE " do not DOUBT ... WITH respect to RAYARU there seems to be extraordinary assurance from all the SAINTS .. try it dear YOU WILL NEVER BE DISSAPPOINTED ./... nambi kettavar illa "
• SO before starting if one spends some time in contemplating these assurances ... his mind will be crystal clear .. and then start with crystal clear mind the seva ... YOU WILL NEVER BE THE SAME MAN AGAIN
• There is no one [ who is good soul ] who has not experienced the astounding results ... everyone has a tale to narrate .. a gaining experience only ...
• As normal people run towards RAYARU for their mitigation of sansaara taapa .. APAROXI's too run to RAYARu to enehance their spiritual agenda .... AND it is they who praise him for that unexplained result that they attain , that MAKES THEM see a great fortune in his blessings .... A times even the great saints are surprised AS TO WHAT in THEM COULD HAVE POSSIBLY TRIGGERED SUCH A extraordinary result for just a simple seva .... IF IT IS THE MAGNANIMOUS PESONALITY OF RAYARU that is giving multitude effect for a simple seva ... THEN WHAT was it that caused as to GO for such simple effort giving multitude effect .... NOTHING BUT GOOD FORTUNE can explain this ... it is pure BHAGYA to serve RAYARU ... OH LORD wherver we are born whatver we are born as , if only we have this simple inspiration to do RAYAR seva knwoingly or unknowingly ... that is enough .... IT WILL TAKE US THROUGH !
• IS RAYARU only in MANTRALAYAM ... ? RAYARU is in asampragnyat samadhi . a person who does not have any connection with outer world is said to be in asampragnyat samadhi .. then how rayaru is knwoing we are doing his seva , when he has no coneection with outer world ? .. how can we say even the brundavan that we have in bangalore delhi USA etc .. will give effect ... one can understand RAYARU is sitting in mantralayam , since he is doing tapasya there it can have briliant sannidhi and give result , but how a Mrittika brundavana would give ? SHOULD I BELIEVE ALL THIS .. ? is it not just a moodh bhakti ?
• jupiter in vimasmasa should be strong
• RAYARU is in asampragnyat samadhi ... BUT then there is vishesha VAYU AVESHA ,, it is VAYUDEVA who resides everywhere , know everything and relates everything to the jeevas ... so RAYARU when a mrittika brundavana is erected , it is THIS VAYUAVESHA which installs itself everwhere and gives us the results , results of teh RAYARU's punya .. RAYARU also knows about all the events inside BY the grace of VAYUDEVA ... though he is unattached about it .. but is very dayalu to easily grant it and VAYUDEVA carries it to us .. chages our LIFE forever .. SO ONE MUST BELIEVE that even mrittika brundavana too gives the results .. RAYARU can be everywhere ...only lesser fortunate will keep questioning about the MAHIMA of RAYARU , their misfortune does not allow them to do RAYAR seva ... LET us take the fortunate route .. keep aside all the whims fancies and doubts and preconcived notions . inabilities and obstructions and obstacles ... and proceed with single mind to do RAYAR SEVA with full faith and devotion ..
• when serving the test of RAYAR seva , the results are always foregone conclusion " PAPPU CANT FAIL bhala "
• shubha ratri .. ellarigu mangalvagali
• sanga vagali sadhu sanga vagali sangadinda LIng deha bhanga vagali
• Let there be satsanga ...let there satsanga of sadhu [ rayar devotees ] , let such sanga lead to linga deha bhanga

what is Bhagavat Dharma ?

• This question was asked by HUNTER to SHANKH rushi !
• Shankh Rushi said - the acts by which chitta [mind ] becomes shuddha [pure] , [ yen chittavishuddhisyaat ]
• 2. yen sataamupakaarah - the acts by which sajjana satvikas are benefited , such saatvik acts which do not lead to LoKNINDA [ illfame,illreputation ] but is agreeable to all saatvikas , that act which arises from the kowledge of shruti and smriti such act also becomes nishkaam then know it to be SATVIKA dharma even if it is lokaviruddHA IE against the times and geeral notion of the world [or majority of people ] .
• chaturvidha hi te dharma ! it is of four types
• according to varnaashram vibhaaga [ divisions of varna and ashrama ]
• and three types according to Nitya NIMMITTIKA kAAMYA
• if all the above acts if offered to VISHNU [ vishnusamarpita yadi ] ....tada va saatvika gneyaa dharma BHAGAVATA SHUBHA ......know them all to be auspicious saatvika BHAGAVATA DHARMA
• Varna ashrama dharma can be followed only when one has conviction , conviction to do what LORD has asked to do !
• to do all these one needs what is known as " kashtasahishnuta"
• what is KASHTA SAHISHNUTA ?
• the tendency to embrace hardships for the sake of dharma is kashtasahishnuta
• this is remarkable quality [ and its intensity ] is what differentiates individuals
• while everyone talks about dharma , philosophy ,hari preeti , but how much one can strain oneself to actual cary them out is very important and varies from individual to individual.
• some go out of way [ RAYARU left everything at 25 , his family was almost orphaned . a child who had not completed upanayana .a wife who was still in teens , and family was in abject poverty , yet when the call of dharma came he took sanyaasa ]
• JAYATEERTHAru just switched off from a affluent life [ he was king of area near sandhyavali river ] , with two beautiful wives , and full of youth and splendour .. and yet when call came .. renounced everything ...
• these are highest examples
• viju has excellent capability to go offtrack
• May 9, 2012 at 3:34am
• WHen we talk about vARNASHRANA DHARM , VARNA DHARMA OF bRAMHIN IS yajan yaajan adhyayan adhyaapan daan pratigraha
• so Bramhin must primarily spend time doing yagnas , [ for self and others ] , studying , teaching [ vedas , hari sarvottama concept ] , taking daana and giving daana
• in ashram dharma , bramhachari spends time in learning without wasting time on pleasures , grahastha does panchayagnya , vaanprastha does vrata upavasa , sanyasa does upasana awaiting death
• Now given our desh kaal paristithi , [ geo socio political economical conditions ] .... can we follow varnashrama dharma ? what is the meaning of this question ?
• BRAMHINS have no conducive atmosphere to do yajan yaajan adhyayan adhyaapan without worrying for their livelihood
• Bramhachaari ie upto age of 25 ... one cannot stay away from streeprekshana [ female promiscuosness ] as coeducation is order of the day , dating is fashionable ,eveteasing is forte of stars , egoistic flaunting of papa's car , pocket money and disco culture is cool factor ... totally against the indriyanigraha concept of BRamhachaari
• I remember SRIDEVI C beig repeatedly disturbed by the fact that why some castes have exceptional wealth and bramhins have no acumen to earn wealth ?
• this thinking is develops out of total switching off from VARA ASHRAMA dharma
• ignoring desha kaal parosthithi means facing hardships [ a Sridevi's concerns shows ]
• VIJU [ ur interpretation of problem ] in terms of prarabdha is totally off track [ it agains opens up JK ] when there is talk of dharma , it is meant for jeeva to execute , execute with conviction . one cannot shy away from failure saying it was prarabdha ...
• May 9, 2012 at 4:02am
• chota sa break !
• May 9, 2012 at 4:45am
• a vaishya is known by how much wealth he has , he is respected accordingly .. kshatriya is known by how much strength he has , the strongest is respected more , shudra is respected by how much aged he is .... the older he is the more he is respected ...BUT a BRAMHAN is resepected by knowledge he posseses , the more the knowledge he has more he will be respected , even among the bramahanas [ and also a group of people of various castes ] a bramhana who has more knowledge even if he is poor , even if he is frail ,. even if he is small [ of seven eight years age ] , he is more respectable ...
• what is the need of heading to jungle ? acharana is always through mind ... ashramadharma and varna dharmacan be followed everywhere
• when it comes to failures people blame prarabdha !but when it coes to try out dharma, they even tremble to take first step .... why not take first step leaving everything on prarabdha ...kala [ just do namaha and jump I will do varna ashramadharmapalana ]
• when one tries to follow dharma , one may face some testing moments but if one sticks to dharma , its LORD who makes everything conducive
• in ekachakra nagar .. pandavas had nothing todo...they had to conceal their identity , but were living in the disguise of bramhana .. so they had to live by BHIKSHA ....
• but a KSHATRIYA should never take BHIKSHA ... but oeust do something to survive . it should be according to dharma as well .. So All the Pandavas look at BHEEMASENA
• BHEEMASENA takes a huge bowl as big as a building raises it in one palm and makes huge ROAR ... and places the bowl in centre of city ,, people out of fear place all the bhiksha in it ... SO it saved BHEEMSEN of Asking .. and it was like vasooli ...taking hafta without asking
• BADRIJI if you were to be appearing for group discussions in CIVIL services u would have been sent out of the room/// kindly stick to discussion or stick discussion to ur query
• NOW Bheema only and only followed bhagavat dharma ..but his terrorising ways would have exposed pandavas ....so YUDHISHTHIR decides to retain BHEEMA at house and other pandavas goout for literal BHEEKSHA
• let us analyse this
• BHEEMA out and out followed the dharma and faced testing times ..LORD intervened and gave him total exemption[ extreme krupa ] .. YUDHISTHIRA feared desh kaalparisthithi ... so he had to forego dharma
• so more we follow dharain tying times ..[actually need not follow ,just try to followmake effort ] LORDmercifully makes the atosphere evenore conducive
• dadagiri is dharma of kshatriyas ...dadagiri for HARI preeti
• earning wealth , trade is dharma of vaishya
• Panadavas hadjust escaped fire accident consipiracy ...so they had taken shelter under a poor bramhana ..DUryodhna had spies all over universe .... so Yudhisthir wanted to reach back Hastinapur safely and wanted to avoid another concipiracy .. If BHEEMA had contnued vasooli in a fearful manner then word would have spread from MAHBOOBNAGAR [Ekchakranagar ] to Hastinapur ..that someone ......and immediately conclusion would be BHEEMA is alive .
• Panadavas were in the disguise of BRAMHANA ..bramhana with bowlin hand going to any hand gets BHEEKSHA , as it is dharma to give Bheeksha to the Bramhana at the time of vaishwadeva ... people gave to PANADAVAS thinking the to be bramhanas as dharma .... we are discussiing here from the point of view f PANDAVAS who were essentially Kshatriyas .. [ though in disguise of BRAMAHANAS , they cannot follow dharma of bramhana ... ] hence Yudhishthir and others had to be lineant with dharma
• Usually Bramhana comes at door step with BHAVATI BHiksham Dehi ... and that is asking daana ...BHEEMSEN did not do it .. HE gave HUNKAARA .... others did it
• in previous yuga , for any caste , the people born to that caste and sudras could cook ...and people born to that caste and higher caste could also cook
• suuda is intermix of kshatriya vaishya ... sairandri is not sudra .. cross of [Kshatriya + vaishya ] X married to [ VAishya + kshatriya ]
• bheeksha for killing ego is wrong .. infact ego rises if bheeksha is taken with shame
• coming back to topic
• ability to face hardships for the sake of DHARMA is paramount to be able to tread bhagavat dharma
• LORD RAAMA , showed that it is important to respect FATHER's words ... and even when FATHER is not alive one must still respect his views and words and promises and wishes and aims
• LORD RAAMA exhibited highest kind of KAshta sahishnuta [ although there never any type of kashta for LORD , he does things effortlessly and does not feel strain or stress or misery ] .... going to jungle on a valkal vastra and not seeing the face o city or town for 14 years is great challenge
• while seeing RAMAYANA or MAHABHARATA people perhaps do not analayse in deep as to what constitutes vanvaasa
• VAnavaasa means , not having second pair of clothing
• ground messy with all kinds of insects , flies and bugs stings ,snakes what not
• sleeping on ground
• vanvaasa means not having footwear and walking through thorny bushes ,and fear of posionous stings , danger of wild animals attacking from anywhere , no lights only darkness , no open lands but weeds and lack of food and water at disposal ...
• danger of tribals , maneaters , demons , pisachas and other cruel beings
• how many days can one sustain such a atmosphere ?
• WHY WAS VANVAASA forced onto LORD RAAMA or PANDAVAS ?
• IF vanavaasa is not given , then these Great personalities could settle in any other city or village . from there they would immidiately become head / king of village or city [ people would enthrone loking at potecting capabilities ] .. then being kshatriya they would do ASHWAMEDHA YAGNYA and again win all the kingdoms
• so VAnvaasa would disallow them any human interaction or duties of civilisation
• Prahalaad raya never disobeyed his father or used harsh words or talked in a antagonising manner
• NOw coming back to discussion , talking more about KAshta SAHISHNUTA .. HARISHCHANDRA just for the sake of truth prepared himself to lose everything ! KINGDOM WIFE SON and even caste
• Its beyond human comprehension to delienate what is prarabdha and sachita ... Krishnadevaraya had VYASARAYA as his guru ,, and yet went without son even though he had two wives .... KIng of kings did he never ask for a son to isatarthaprada VYASAYATIVARYA ?
• man is affected by all the three sanchit prarabdha agaami at a time
• coming back to discussion
• somewhere there is misunderstanding that "if one is given permission to fight back , one can do miracles . one is sitting back idly because he is accepting destiny " what a gross miscalculation of self capabilities
• let me elaborate more in detail
• one is in village where there is no doctor ! and one has no knowledge of ayurveda or medicine ..... one falls ill ...
• what can the person do ? accept destiny
• but if there is a very good able famous doctor available in the townside ... then one sits and thinks .... if it were in my destiny that doctor would have actually been in my village ...why shpould i go to townside .... its my destiny .... wellwisher says .. why not go to townside and show doctor ! now who is right ?
• thirdly if one hiself is very good in ayurveda and knows what is wrong with him and where he will get medicines to cure himself .. and is very sure of cure ... will he even wait to think about destiny ?
• SO knowledge is paramount ...if by knwoledge of ayurveda or astrology one knows that its all over .. instead of lamenting on destiny one will sit in dhyaana or like parikshit call SHUKA MUNI and listen to BHAGAVAT
• Hrishikesh question is not offtrack .. the question is what should form the impetus for DHARMA .... how can we decide its time for BHAGAVAT dharma ... or time for sitting idle
• sitting idle - seven generations of Surya vamsha kings struggled to release some great grandfather who is still in form of ashes in some unknown land
• what we do in such situation ... some astrologer says ...you have pitru dosha ... immediately answer will be I have done this I have done that .. we have done everything .... [ this astrologers just keep extracting money ]
• So after some the very generation which does gaya shraddha etc sits IDLY ... we have done everything now its prarabdha !
• So after some the very generation which does gaya shraddha etc sits IDLY ... we have done everything now its prarabdha !
• So after some the very generation which does gaya shraddha etc sits IDLY ... we have done everything now its prarabdha !
• then if problem persists , next generation will say "yes there is saying we have dosha ... " and discussion ends ... nobody actually struggles hard to relieve the soul [ that is pitru dosha ] what everyone is worried is my problem due to pitru dosha over ?
• So after some the very generation which does gaya shraddha etc sits IDLY ... we have done everything now its prarabdha !
• So after some the very generation which does gaya shraddha etc sits IDLY ... we have done everything now its prarabdha !
• So after some the very generation which does gaya shraddha etc sits IDLY ... we have done everything now its prarabdha !
• So after some the very generation which does gaya shraddha etc sits IDLY ... we have done everything now its prarabdha !
• So after some the very generation which does gaya shraddha etc sits IDLY ... we have done everything now its prarabdha !
• But to do DHARMA what is required is Are we in a position to take pains ? If you suggest an atheist spend some amount for a pitru he would get insecure
• noral humans spend NOT SURE what they are doing ? they spend and then wait KAAM HUA KYA ? and then immediately start crying I did this I did that but nothing happened ? and next question on blog would be ... ONE ASTROLOGER TOLD ME THIS DOSHA .. is this dosha REALLY there ? and owrse aisa pitru vitru dosha rehta hai kya SACHCHI MEIN ? in relaity is there anything like piru vitru dosha [ that vitru shows casualness ]
• so every DHARMA what is required is complete conviction that yes I must follow dharma ...
• FATHER's words ... why should it be taken so seriously ?
• okay give him some respect .. but man going to JUNGLE for his words ' sake ,, too much kya jaroorat hai ...
• okay I am ready to go to jungle .. but what to do my father himself said dont GO ... now should I obey my FATHER or his WORDS ? [ HRISHIKESH i think PARHALAADRAYA QUESTION IS ANSWERED here by RAAMA ]
• Great grandfather is lying in ashes ... TOH MAIN KYAN KARUN .. bhai BAAL BACHCHE WAALA AADMI HUN .. PATAAL kab jayunga aur kab yeh hoyenga ...by the way PATAAL jaane ka raasta kaise hain ... AI jaati hain
• So DHARMA is about what ?
• pleasing father , pitru , devta , is this DHARMA .... ? [ MAIN KYA SIRF GHAASNE AYAA HUN .... DISCO KAB JAWOONGA ...europe trip bhi nahi hui yaar abhi tak ... kaash woh thoda ghaas daalti ? ]
• SO from the above example what we see is DHARMA is about prioritising something more than SELF
• Putting something above self is KASHTA
• primafacie daring to attempt it is SATVIK laxan
• HOW much we can put above SELF is the matter of TARTAMYA !
• IF one has to see HOW MUCH SATVIK are we ? how will we evaluate ?
• SAY I COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND STAY FOR A MONTH ! Will I get same treatment from DAY one though DAY 30 ?
• JUST SATVIK will greet say hello and talk as much he can and then look at the wall clock .. why this man is showing no intention to leave .. has he any plan to stay over
• better SATVIK will express happiness and offer to stay for lunch
• he will be dismayed if the stay extends beyond noon . slowly family members will take afternoon nap and then get up and one of the family members unknowingly ask has the guest left .. finding him just in front...........
• whether you are working in corporate world or underworld ... if you are doing two times sandhyavandana .. engaging in learning one sentence of veda ...teaching your youngster one word of shastra [ bhagavat shastra ] ..... doing seva of GURU BRAHMANA and ELDERs .. doing deva pooja ,... using you dravya in satvik upakaara [ awar jeevan dalli ishtu uppu kaara challodu ] .... and increasing vairagya is bhagavat dharma for all
• NOW what is GURU BRAMHANA ELDERs sushrusha
• This is the most important aspect of this discussion ... and i would like to dwell with elaborate examples to show though everyone is SATVIK ,. does devapooja . is hari bhakta , yet fail in the eyes of LORD ...where ? GURU BRAMHANA HIRIYAR sushrusha
• first LEt us discuss ELDERS
• mantra siddhi comes only if ashtang yoga siddhi occurs .. the first of yoga anga yama itself comes only if there is GURU BRAMHANA AGNYAjan SUSHRUSHA
• No amount of HARI pooja , daana dharma upavaasa shastrartha works if one is not successful in satisfying the AGNYAJAN
• here the world dynamics enters .. till now as we were discussiing shastra dharma in a bookish way ... things looked nice .... it gave us a chnace to bash our bad neighbourhood .. irresponsible youth ..etc etc ... but exactly where do we fare in the eyes of LORD MUKHYAPRANA is more important ... for that it is important to know what are parameters of evaluation
• that is because ... a old people , young widows [ bramhana ] , a dear friend who has lost everything , enemies son ..a learned bramhana ....a blood relative is always entitled to stay in house ...that is dharma ... one should not turn them down
• asking people to leave [ no kashta sahishnuta ] is sin .. here dynamics come into play
• kunti served DURVASA for years ... people feared in that yuga itself DURVASA ... in previous yuga ... people were naturally dharma conscious and went overboard .. in that era .DURVASA was not welcome even for a second .. as his stringent parameter for GURU BRAMAHAN sushrusha instantly ended in curse [ sometimes even before encounter ended curse was ready ] //// BUT KUNTI pulled out a miracle not only she saw to it that DURVASA [ DURVASAru is one of the first sanyasis of MADHVA MATHA ] was pleased and also got boon from him
• now let us say we know a person is powerful and very short tempered and our superior ... if he comes to us for some interaction .. very well knowing .. if anything goes wrong the gentleman is going to punish and punish badly ... instead of approaching him with clean happy mind .. we will immediately get agitated and if he finds any fault with us we start justifying ourselves and want to prove that he is unencessarily making it a point and is just seeking avenues to punish .. we just want to blame him and the psychilogical war starts the moment he enters the scene
• where is SUSHRUSHA it ha sgone for toss ... SUSHRUSHA only in swastha awastha ... I must be settled ... i shoudl not have any problems ... and the person who comes to me must only praise me approve my actions all actions .. and should not criticise and or be dominant .. if he does then helll with sushrusha .. you are not welcome .... mere ghar me akaar mere ko hi lecture !
• BUT I AM SATVIK >./. I WANT TO DO BHAGAVAT DHARMA thats for discussion .... when it comes to execution for that split second i forget ... WHY ?
• May 10, 2012 at 8:50am
• WE ARE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS MINDSET OF PEOPLE ... WHEN I HAVE DECIDED TO FOLLOW dharma .. i would not see how many by my side are doing it ,.... I MUST FOLLOW
• now when behaviour is faulty ... Bhagavt dharm will not take off
• let me give some wordly example .. where even learned would forget dharma ... what i have seen through i am enumerating
• Sreedevi Chulki getting hurt is ego playing in the mind ...its defect .. if you dont get hurt ... the remarks would go waste .. if they brag just praise them even more ... but that doesnt mean you leave interaction .. yes inetraction with tamas is not required .. near dears will be satvik [ some daitya avesha ] u cannot shy away from society ... people live to compare themselves with others ,... a neighbour buys a gold ... after we have purchased gold first thing is we want to make it known to neighbour see i have matched you
• why deprive someones happiness of overtaking us
• I have lost wealth to the position of zero ... many times in my life .. such situations will come again .... poeple especially point out whats the use of intellgence knowledge in bad days ... but one must take it smilingly and not rebutt
• after earning huge wealth ... i had to borrow rs seven for bus ticket to reach out to friend
• so ego more it is in play more unhappiness it gives
• and everytime I have lost it not by mistake or folly but by forcible loot by tamas people ... all in presence of very trusted people
• when things go wrong ..one must always put the head down and accept the fate ...
• everytime a loss occurred .. LOrd has given me even better rise than previous in avery short period of time much to the surprise of people around .. now people feel i fake that i dont have anything even when there is loss ..
• sukha vagali bahudukhavaagali .. hari neeobbane jagadodayanu emba gyaanvu sadaa karunisiayyaa ..... nee ittange iruvenu hari
• with multiple harmoics
• harmonics
• what dasaru says ... in happiness or in extreme misery .., please give me only one knowledge firmly that YOU are the only one who is the RULER of the world .. ie everything is happeneing according to your directions .. I will stay as you wish to keep me
• what happens someone ill treats us .. we think he is ill treating us ... he is bad man ... he is jealous ... BUT what is reality .. it is our poorva janma karma sins .. and HARI is washing it off by giving us ill treatment .... SHOULD WE ACCEPT HARI's verdict or GRIND OUR TEETH AGAINST THE BAD MAN
• dying fo woman children bramhana is duty for all
• garuda purana says .. one can digest kaalkoota visha , one can digest iron filings .. but nobody in this world can digest the money of the bramhana .. [ one should not cheat bramhana of money ] ... the sins of looting a bramhana uns down the family till family is extinct .. generations together people suffer .. till one fine day generation is wiped out ..
• so why punish ourselves
• Is LAW punishing all murderers ....
• So dharma should be followed fearlessly
• whether in good times or bad times
• once I was a zero ... and yati stepped into my house .. he wanted to do a yaaga .. there was not a single re in house to give for dakshina too ... the whole team of yati was in the main hall with much hope ..
• all the family members with heavy heart gathered in pooja room ... and with folded hands stood speechless before LORD
• recited Venkatesh stotra
• My uncle came suddenly from nowhere[ he lived in a different city ] .. he stepped in to do paada pooja .. as we were all of same gotra ... it did not matter .. as he was elder too ... he took all the responsibility without even bothering to ask whats wrong ?
• WHEn there is willingness ... HARI himself does it fior you ... earlier i used to go long distance to buy herbs for deva pooja .... infact spend ten times more on transport to fectch a little herbs ...
• after sometimes ... now i am seeing three four five herbs selling stores have been opened by bramhanas right opposite my house
• earlier i used to roam in muddy lanes to get cowdung for homa .. seek cajole ppeople [ often sudras ] to give cow dung .. they would say they just throw them away ... if i want i can collect it from their backyard ,..
• backyard of huts
• after many such attempts ... One rayar mutt employee saw my plea and said what is this sir ... we throw away cowdung on streets .. and some truck comes and picksit up monthly ... why dont you take it to your house .. now i get cow dung of rayar mutt cow
• what I am stressing is you try once ...YOu walk one step and LORD walks ten steps to you
• try kashtasahishnuta [ in your own imited way ] and do gau sushrusha agnyajan sushrusha , bramhana ssuhrusha , guru devata sushrusha
• and things will change ..
• you will not have reasons therafter of time society
• moving ahead .... real story ..one brahana had two wives two sisters
• elder gave birth to two daughters and died
• second one did not have any issues ... she looked after both the children and one daughter brought up children in a manner to serve elders .. the other daughter married rich man ... she never sent her chidren to look after old lady .. every week children of first would go and fetch water from long distant well and keep pooja room clean ... old lady was very religious .. once it happened the children of second daughter too came to village simulatneously ,... as the first were bringing water ... the old lady was engaging the second daughters children with ice creams purchased from stores ... but still failed to purchase the same for the first daughters chidren .. CHIKDREN FELT BAD .... what is the use of religious nature of OLD LADY ?
• her fault she wanted to do vasha of second daughters children by hook or crook ..all the while she was over confident of first ones ...
• moha
• people of category who can give agnya [order ] to us is agnyajan
• some ore glaring examples ..are people build houses and rent it out to relatives ... why rent ?
• some do not rent it to relatives as they may not give rent timely and force may not be possible so even if brother is struggling next house giving rent .... one will rent once own house to strangers and ask same brother to collect rent for him in his absence
• all of them will do rayar seva urulu seva , dance in aradhana , serve food in festivals .... do teertha yatra but whats the use ?
• at the same time brother will not occupy the house of brother ... instead will pay rent to a sahukaar ... but will not take obligation of relative
• Dharma is in smaller things .... which we ignore in day to day life ....
• people will not forego share in property citing misintentions of coowners .... what if one gets more one gets less ... such an attitude shoudl come to sahdaka ..
• attitude with smile not in a lamenting way now because other fellow is dushta ... he ahs usurped my property and so i say ... prrapti shoudl be there
• when a group is invited to house .. person who is eligible should be given pada pooja in a function like marraige upanayana namakarana grahapravehsa ... but we dleiberately choose our fatherin law to impress him ...and annoy own relations ... ignore learned bramhanas in the gathering ....
• bhagavat dharma ... hey this is my function .... you are suppose to watch and say you ahve done excellent function ... your in law was brimming with pride ... [ but you widowed mother was shying behind the door with half smile and tears ]
• this is not a social comment , its a discussion on bhagavat dharma ...some feel how to accord a pada pooja to widowed mother [ its a shubha function ] and next elder is my in law ...
• so he feels he is right ... after all my shubha is more important ... MOTHER is always shubha shuntha ...nobody is there to tell !
• My grandmothers' sister is frail and her sons do not take her to any place she spends all her time in a single room often closed as all family members go out working .. to avoid criticism she has been declared mentally unsound ... once when mother called up her house ,. the family spoke well an then suddenly hearing my mothers voice on speaker she insisted she wanted to speak .. she burst into tears and said i have heard daughter in law is very beautiful ... i have no fortune to even meet you all ...all i can only hear and be satisfied .... my mother next thing is she aksed all of us to pack bags and go and take her blessings ... she was living faar away but mothers order never to be overiden ... granny spoke to us for 4 hours and there was no signs of mental disorder or fraility she cane all the way till street corner to see us off ... all the while her son was ashamed for not bringing her to marraige ..
• there was atwinkle in her eyes and happiness of having met someone from her relations after years .... ther could not have been a better sushrusha for me than this .... it is rightly siad that MOTHER is great guru of all .... I realised walking that extra mile to satisfy someone has its own merit ... can there be abetter teertha yatra than this ?
• the son distributes vijayaraya kavach all over the city participates in aradhana and does many poojas is very religious man ....
• a pratilomaj who has grown in our vicinity playing with my brothers .. listeneing to my lectures .... his mother left him .father ditched mother ,... brought up by grandmother [ who is today 99 ] and mothers sisters who are half mad and unmarried ... all brothers of the mother ditched the family .. he grew in a small two room hutment ..became engineer .. and married and looked after mothers sisters and grandmother ... in his own house .... got heart operation to grandmother at 98 .... spending laksh of rs ,... when he asks me bhau what pooja i have todo .. i sy u need not do anything ,... you already are doing great pooja ... he has progressed by leaps and bounds in companies of repute ... but rejected all offers of foriegn assignements ,...
• simple mantra never do chidranveshana in elders ,... never try to look for faults in elders .. while you can enumerate them to say it is against dharma .. but such an contemplation of elders mistake should not be taken as a cue to base interaction ..
• infact no interaction should be based on other mans character ... it should be based on situatonal dharma
• i think people are bored of this thread ...
• seeking minor defects in a good person ....
• i have already said .. one must not label anyone god or bad by his immediate karmas
• one must never preach elders .. except if you are higher in tartamya [ and if you know it ] ... non bramhana s shoudl not preach bramhanas .. even if they think they know better ...
• misunderstandings , kalaha are all doshas .... if one is elder to you than one must go and clarify ,,after that if they dont workout then doisha parihaara must be done .... once dosha parihaara is done misundertandings autmatically go
• first step is to prepare self for taking extra pain ..teaching body to withstand ego trampling .... not to be reactive .. is first step .. one must not feel sense of loss if one has not retaliated
• After total debacle one of my rivals who claimed himself to be a great bramhaana bhakta ... a marwari .. said ... i would have infact taken even darker revenge but i leave you because you are a bramhana ...for half an hour he spoke on ahigh pitch ...from his flat in plush mumbai and i was on his doorstep he was not willing to open door seeing from his video surveillance ,.. he went on bragging about his strength ... i did not curse him ,.... although my mind was agitated enough to curse him for what he was doing ...later he opened door and accomapanied by many prostitutes in teens .. he made lot of fun of my position ... i walked out ... till date i dont know why didnt say a single word ...but the man is running from country to country in disguise today .. fearing for life
• bhagavat dharma is not about ecouraging .. one can tread only when one gets knoweldge .. my whole post is here is stating that even if people are saativik they miss out dharma because they forget about it or jutify that my follwoing bhagavat dharm wrt this person is not warranted
• similarly with neighbours .. sharing water resources ,, etc etc .. one must not think oh last time he did like that now i will do it this way ....
• just do what is warranted
• NEVER set ones own rule
• set rules as per shastra
• forgo things for the sake of younger ones
• lookafter elders even if it means demeaning oneself ..... even though DHRITARASHTRA was responsible for all the evils to PANDAVAS they took good care of him
• having elders in house is great sancitity ,..
• yesterday i went to a temple .. an elderly person was lamenting .. his son was mtech .. and well earning .. and went to see a bride .. the bride took interview of the boy and asked ... does your father get pension ... will he be able to take care of himslef ..are you ahving own house .. do you have bank balanace .. is there any chance you would ask me to cook ./// do relatives frequently come to your house ...is there restrictions in your house ..of eating outside etc etc .if all this is there flatly i am not interested ...
• modern education and gandhian influence has somewhere left lasting impression that we must fight [ alhough nobody in reality fights but feels his birth right to fight and fughting is fashionable it gives kick ,.so one seeks doshas around to fight .] elders are powerful fghtng against them is doing something great and applaudable .... first we must think are we entitled to fight ..
• if we are entitled to fight than go out and fight the criminal at the corner of ur street ... he will beat you black and blue till the bhoot of fighting total subsides
• but we will not do that
• in bhagavadgeeta .. the reason for anger is souls attachment to thing denied arises anger ... just forget the thing which is cause of anger ... easier said
• ashabhanga is cause of anger
• superior in office cannot be termed superior ..but one must use yukti and not openly revolt
• showing off means dambhik vinaya
• no point in venting anger ... one must succeed in putting across the point .... so before taking any action one must think what am i expecting fom this action ... do i need to terrorise the person ,. or will i be successfulin making him tremble and dance to my tunes next time .. will he understand my frustration ... if all these is not seen to be achieved by shouting being angry .. then there is no use of getting angry
• in al situations .. whether at home or office its always war of control
• some control by charm , some by terror
• some by blackmail
• when boss overlooks the good work , we want to let him know you did mistake ate paapi ... narak me jayega
• motive of people is progress benefit ...etc ... its always in someoneelses hand ... u need to control that person its inherent feeling ... some use charm ... some go otherway .. see if he has any weaknesses .. exploit it and get benefits .. boss has to ignore good fellows [ often harmless ] and promote such people
• seek entitlement from hari
• let hari give reaction [ he hundred percent does ]
• put your attachments in a scale with HARI on other side ,.. see who will give more benefits ... think like vanik
• i am a merchant i will do only that is most profitable ... and long lasting deal .... is there anything more profiatble Vaikuntha
• I am a strategist .. i think only in aligning with most powerful ... is there anyone who is MORE POWERFUL THAN AHARI
• I am a pishoon I befriend only those who give me something .... HARI gives me all that I desire
• after elders we shall concentrate on GURU
• if things have becme heavy .. we shall do it later
• i am advised bed rest .. what better than hari naam sankeertana to forget pain
• okay here we go
• whenever one does some homa .// there is a ritual in it knwon as acharya varana
• what is acharya varana ?
• one should choose a good acharya ritviks and pradhaan archaka and bramhanas for homa ...
• this choosing is a ritual which is done a day before .. one goes to the house of the acharya and worships him and requests and invites him to the homa ...
• today we first ask how much for a homa .?
• pandit says a cost .. and thats it ... pandit has to do all the event management and once the poornaahuti is over ... pandit waits jejmaan dakshina .... jejmaan is happy what a homa ... how many people attended and is still busy attending to some guests and instructs his assitant yeh dakshina deke rafa dafa karo
• this is tamas homa
• it gives no result ..
• so not only homa .. if a life is not started with acharya varana ... it will become a tamas homa ./// entire life will be a tamas homa
• do all rituals in a elaborate way as possible ... dont go on fast track
• so guru is very important in life .. one must never live life wihout a guru
• MOther is first guru .. always respect her .... father is next guru ... one must never disrespect parents
• when guru is insulted ... life becomes tamas homa ..
• what is tamas homa ? at the end of tamas homa krutya is obtained and it does only destructive things ... if it cannot do any destructive things then itdestroys the karta of the homa
• so those who have insulted parents .. if they are facing troubles day in day out its no surprise ... because its krutya especially created by your own homa .. you have personalised miseries
• with each tear drop that falls from the eyes of parents ... thousands of miseries take birth in the family of the sons
• krutya is a rakshashi
• Guru should not be contradicted or angered upon under any circumstances ...
• Nemi raja asked Vahsishtha his kulaguru to do a yagnya ... but Vashishtha said i am busy in another yagnya and will do after the completion ...
• 500 years passed by in yagnya ... so Nemi raja chose gautam rishi and finished his yangya
• vashishtha came after another 500 years and said okay now lets do yagnya .. Nemi said he has finsihed it ... VASHISHTHA cursed him to
• NEMI became angry and took water to curse VASHISTHA back ... [ for cursing without fault of his ] ... his wife immediately came and told ... GURU like VASHISHTHA is from the start of KULA .. they are like pitrus .. one must not curse them ... even if they ahve done somehing wrong to us ...
• NEMI who had already taken water ... had to sipose water ... wherever disposed it would give adverse effect .. so finally he decides to pour it over his own foot .. his feet become dark and dirty ,... from then he was called KALMASHPADA
• moral of the story is alwasy accept what guru says ...
• SO if you choose a krodhi kaami incomplete gurus ... you will sustain only injuries
• So one must choose a complete guru ..THERE is NO GURU other than RAYARU who is perfect , complete and devaswabhava
• so one must do varana of RAYARU as GURU ....
• GO to MANTRALAYAM ... do shodoshopachaar pooja .. and then say OH RAYARU please accept me as shishya
• start your life thus
• what happens when we have a right guru ? making a shishya lead good life becomes responsibility of guru
• RAYARU is everywhere .. at all times in all situations ... it is his responsibility to show us what is right and what is wrong
• when guru is perfect then we can be rest assured of best guidance
• sometimes we are in problems ..but we do not want to say it ... but wants someone to just solve it ...
• humans have tendency to seek pleasure in others dukh bhari kahani ... so people say okay let me know what is your problem ..
• and while one is recounting his tale , he /she feels very diminished before other person .... and other person rejoices his temp place of gurutva .. he becomes authoritative ,.. and all knowing ... and talks nonesense and unrelated just because other person is asking he has to give advice
• rayaru is devaswabhava .... he doesnt need recounting problems ... he will not make you dainya .... he will give solutions without asking and that too making you super comfortable ..
• when we have chosen our guru ..at all functions we must invite guru bramhana and elders .. remember go to the house and invite elders ... and not on phone email ..sms chat .... that is okay for friends but for kul devta guru bramhana and elders one must visit them and invite ...
• so GURU bramhana AGNYA JAN should form fulcrum of our activities .. everyday we must get up and see if these three are satisfied with us .. is there anything that needs our attention towards these
• what has been elaborated above comes unde one category called vruddhopaseva
• in arthshastra ... it is said that one must live by dharma
• because dharma leads to happiness
• what is not dharma brings unhappiness
• To live a life of dharma one needs artha [finance ]
• seva of vruddha .. gyaan vruddha vayi vruddha tapo vruddha
• to earn one need rajya [ avocation , job ]
• rajya or job remains stable only if one has indriyanigraha
• when we are facing finacial troubles .. we must introspect somehwere indriyanigraha might have failed
• when stability ios thereatened introspect where you have expressed anger wrongly
• when we are workig we face two kinds of anger .. anger within the organisation and anger from sources external to organisation
• stability ends once these anger explodes
• so to keep stability one must have indriyanigraha ...with all senses under control one can lead successful life undisturbed ..
• To get indriyanigraha one must have vinaya
• when vinaya is lost .. indriyanigraha is lost
• loss of vinaya means enter the ego
• how is vinaya developed ?
• what should one do to develop vinaya ?
• one gets vinaya by VRUDDHOPASEVA
• those who do not look after their elders always face obstructions in career
• So follwoing dharma has its benefit even from career finance job stability point of view as well
• So GURU BRAMHANA AGNYJAN sushrusha has both iha and para benefits !!!
• in iha it develops vinaya and in para it gives VISHNU PREETI
• now what is Vruddhopaseva ?
• i want to know from u all
• how many of you have talked to mother or father while they were standing and oneself either sitting or sleeping on bed
• how many times have we given hunkaara to elders words ?
• how many times have we cut the discussion of elders .. ie interrupting even before they have finished saying
• how many times have we failed to do namaskaara to paents before leaving town on journey ?
• how many times have you failed to notice some request of parents [ trivial ] like going to market .. temple ... friends house , that old street .. that old shop ... [ oh not today I am busy .. i have work in office ]
• how many times have you failed to take your parents to that function which they wanted to attend despeartely
• how many times have you brought the favourite fruit of you mother without her asking for it ?
• how many of you have taken time out in a day just to speak few words [ gappa goshthi ] with parents ..
• how many times have you got up in midnight to check whether ur parents are sleeping well ... without discomfort
• how many times have you foregone your desire just because parents didnt like it !
• how many times have you fallen on the feet of you parents and said sorry
• finally has anyone sat calmly atleast once till now and said to himself okay i have done all this now i should do porayashchitta ?
• So looking at the list what is view of VRUDDHOPASEVA ... seems more negatve points than positive
• that means 99% fail in vrudhdhopaseva .. so no vinaya ... so no indriya nigraha .. so no rajya ,..no artha ... no dharma .[ samanya dharma ] .. HOW can we even talk about BHAGAVAT DHARMA
• So where is the cause of ego jealousy anger ...now do you understand ?
• Thats why we say do RAYAR seva , Bramahan seva , MATRU PITRU SEVA .. to gain desires , indriya nigraha and artha ...
• if this discussion would not have taken place it becomes impossible to know how rayar seva can give me a job or wealth or desires
• just imagine some can ask ... sir you mean here i take poradakshina namaskaara to my mom , and there someone will call me for interview and give job is it scientific ?
• one must do teertha yatra to do prayaschitta for all such mistakes take dip in ganaga
• relationship with parents is very special ... till they are living we do vruddhopaseva
• when they are not there ... on the day of death till 12 days ... we assist them in having every kind of comfort
• then we assisit them in their journey ... and remove every obstacle they are likely to get during journey
• because at every step of journey they look back for help to son
• the whole year long journey we make it safe for them through masik and abdika
• after is it over ?
• no we meet the daily and partake food with them in shraaddha
• we give tarpana every now and then to remind them we are here remembering them and they get immense satisfaction
• and then is it just over by taking giving food ? NO // in evey shubh karya in our house be it upanayana or marraige .. we establish nandi .. to invite all our pitrus ti witness our function and bless us .. so where is the end of relationship ,... it just gets extended to another form of body ./.
• and if we could visualise or see them as we make nandi .. we would never ever feel that they are not there .. their presence will always be felt ...
• so our seva towards parents is lic policy jeevan ke saath bhi jeevan ke baad bhi
• MATA PITA are pratayaksha devta so do not lose opportunity to serve them
• if you want the reputation of kula to exist till sun and moon exist then make RAYARU YOUR KULAGURU ..
• shubha ratri for now !
• my post now i think has some sarthaka .. atleast one person has had paschhcttapa
• we have seen GURU BRAMHANA AGYAJAN seva and its mahattva and its importance in following Dharma samanya and then finetuning to BHAGAVAT dharma .... Now we turn our attention to our dharma towards Devatas
• what is our dharma towards devtas ? any idea ?
• tell me one great thing that devatas do for us ..?
• rain sunlight and wind are visible upakaaras that can be seen ...
• as we breath , see in sunlight and eat due to rains ... dont we get indebted to Devatas ?
• so we are burdened with deva runa ...
• has anyone done homa or pooja just to say thank you devatas ? or they have done homa havana to seek desires
• what about runa ?
• yes agreed havan homa to devatas reduces runa ... suppose you owe money [emi] to your coma stores ... you go and pay your emi but in return again bring anaother appliance .. so runa reduces or increases
• what is the sankalpa you do in pooja ?
• yes so one must give ahuti everyday in aupasanagni ... agnihotra twice .. paksha homa .. etc .. these are done with an aim to say thankyou
• The essence of Bhagavat dharma as encapsulated by MADHVACHARYA in following verses
• akshayam karmayasmin paresvarpitam prakshayam yaanti dukhani yannamatah aksharaoyoajarah sarvadaivamrutah kukshigam yasya vishwam sadaajadikam preeNayaamo vaasudevam devatamandalaakhandamandanam
• yasmin pare - in sarvottam Hari Vasudeva , svarpitam -if offered with devotion , karma - the paapa punya caused by karma , karma which is prescribed by shastras
• akshayam -such karmas having inifinte fruits , dukhani- all types of miseries , yannamath- by taking name with devotion names like raam krishna ... prakshayam yaanti - gets annihilated without trace , yah aksharah - Lord one who does not perish , yah
• Madhvacharya says , vihit karma acharane should be done to please VAASUDEVA .. that is the only way to PLease him and is foremost BHAGAVAT DHARMA
• yes only varnashrama is vihit karma ....
• Dasaru taking a leaf out of mAdhvacharya 's song ... laid foundation for the BHagavt dharma and its implementation
• Vedvyasa and Srimadanandteertha have laid down anushthana .. walking this path in this tradition is known as BHAGAVAT dharma ...
• Acharya has written in sanskrit but then for common man the same ethos was handed down in simple kannada and is known as HARIDASA PARAMAPARA following which is also BHAGAVAT DHARMA .
• This can be seen in the composition written by GOpaladasaru in praise of VIJAYARAYARU ... BHAGAVAT DHARMA VAHISI VIJAYARAYA
• Bhakti YOGA is ANANDABRAMHOPASANA !
• what is that ?
• In yajurveda there are special three vallis in taittiriyopanishat knwon as BHRIGUVALLI
• because these were seen by SAGE BHRIGU ... this part of VEDA one of the most important veda knowing which only one can get MOKSHA is seen by BHRIGU ....
• sages who see Veda .. ie are mantra drashtar .
• Mantra drashta is explained in BRAMHANDA PURANA ...
• If any person who is intellegent and very smart if he had composed a very briiliant composition and does not attribute any authorship to it can that become VEDA ?
• SO Bramhanda PURANA lays down that MANTRA DRASHTAR is the one who has not less than 20 laxanas out 32 laxanas .. such a man should belong to a VEDA ADYAYANA paramapara .. the veda he sees shoudl also have been amongst the parampara and he should be a practising vedic tapasvi ./.
• SO with this SAGE BHRIGU becomes apt drashtar for TRIVALLI of YAJUSH Taiitiriyopanishat .. ..
• VIJAYADASRU is BHRIGU AMSHA and is also a mantra drastar
• BHAGAVAT DHARMA VAHISI VIJAYARAYA - so said GOPALADASRU , which BHAGAVAT dharma was he reffering to ?
• in ekadash skanda BHAGAVAT PURANA ,, LORD SRIKRISHNA explaining BHAGAVT dharma to UDDHAVA says this was practised by BHRIGU who was taught by BRAMHA ...
• LOrd SAYS BHAGAVAT dharma was lost after Pralaya ,. so He first taught it BRAMHA .. Bramha to MANu and BHRIGU and so on it spread in this world ..
• which upadesha was that ...
• it was HRUTPUNDARIKASTHA BHAGWADUPASANA which is shreshtha BHAGAVAT dharma
• This was KNOWN to SAGE BHRGU , so alo known to VIJAYARAYARU who was BHRIGU AMSHA
• pundarikastha
• NARAYANA rupi VEDVYASA has written Bramha sutras and ACHARYA MADHWA has written BHASHY for it , in that adhyaya 1 samanvayaadhyaya , guhadhikarana and dahaadhikaraa ... MADHWACHARYA has written that HRUTPUNDARIKASTHA is VISHNU only
• his upasana alone gives MOKSHA
• for this VIJAYARAYA has written 101 suladis
• which is nothing but sara of BHRIGUVALLI
• DHEERENDRATEEETHARU has written excellent vyakhyaana summing up all the above points and explaining in detail how this upasana can be done ....
• FUrther details are to be known through GURUMUKHA only ! SRKRISHNARPANAMASTU
• all these should be known through guru in person
• you have not got the point .. first one must know HARI is sarvottama through all the shastras [ sharvana ] .. then he must contemplate over all shastra and get many doubts ...find solution for all the doubts ,. even after this one wases time in various