IS ASTROLOGY A DEFINITIVE SCIENCE ?

• WHAT IS MEANT BY DEFINITIVE ?
• LEts take a example , SUN in seventh house , woman is deserted by the husband ...... ... NAla damayantu many example ... NOW when you see SUN in seventh can an astrologer confidently say the subject will be deserted .. CAN THAT BE DEFINITIVE ?
• SO how can Astrologer be definitive in prediction / is it right to say meri jabaan paththar ki lakeer ?
• Okay .. lets put it like this ... JUST for a moment think we have never studied MADHWACHRYA's MBTN ... THEN whole MAHABHARTA is indefinitive .. we cannot conclude what is what ... THEN enter MBTN the samw Mahabharta is now definitive ... WHAT is the moral of the story ?
• so for every science there is definitive "decryptor"
• As MAhabharta becomes a difficult text to comprehend unless one knows Tartamya ... so knowledge of Tartamya is decryptor ...
• so also knowledge of Taartamya of phala [results of karma ] is very necessary to know astrology .... BUt then its is said absolute tartamya of Phala of graha chaara only BRAMHA alone knows ..
• accordingly tartamya from bramha downwards everyone knowls leser and lesser about future ..
• The knowldege of definitiveness is kept secret and more and more generalised versions are transmitted in lower cauldrons
• was karna better than arjun .. if tartamya not known .. it is indefinitive ... When proving Rudra dev as inferior we say VAYU overtook his boons ... BUt then Ther is incident where BHEEMSEN doe not overtake boon to ...Jyadrath so it become sindefinitive .. BUT when TARTAMYA is know it BECOMES definitive and ver easy tooo ... minus tartamya it is impossible nd indefinitive ? what say ?
• So Tartamya [ madhwa sidhdanta is very secretive science ] ... when you have it and and then look at others who do not have it .. YOU EXPRESS surprise at why they feel so much indefinitive about all this ...
• NOW should this secret TARTMA if you go on making public .. shout on top of your mouth to the world HEY ! i have known a secret , TARTAMYA by MADHWACHARYA ! why all of you are suffering , take this pill TARTAMYA nd become srvagnya ! ..... BUT PEOPLE WILL LAUGH AT YOU , lagta hai iska khisak gaya !!!
• SO even if you make a secret public it doesnt fetch any result .. BUT you will look like a fool yourself ...
• SO greats say .. never let out the secret ... DONT preach MADHWA sidhdanta in public ,
• SO what should be done ? secrets should be given to only eligible souls .... if not then your own siddhi gets dissolved ...
• So many people try to write something they know just TO ANNOUNCE that THEY KNOW ... without analysing who is the recipient .. [ a mletcha . antyaj or atheist ] .... such people always go to hell
• when studying astrology you struggle hard with a concept .. and never find an answer in the realm of what one studies ... and then we fall at the feet of GURU [ RAYARU ] , ad anew realm opens .." arey YEH to PATA hi NAhi tha .. aisa bhi hota hai kya ... "
• For example .. in mantrashastra , we study that , mantras can be used for becoming invincible ...one can have jaya siddhi ..with a mantra .. okay so if one has mantra he will become invincible .... then can just one mantra make me anything ? if it is s
• The thought and any amount of research will not yeild any satisfactory answer .. on the contrary you will get more vipareet gyana .. reading more on mantrashastra will also not yeild any good ..
• THEN one day we read ARJUNA was given Vaishnava mantra .. by Yudhisthir ... [ by the advise of VEDVYASA ] he was told he is invincible with this mantra .. BUT then He uses the mantra on RUDRADEVA .. Rudra nullifies it with another mantra .. HOW can RUDRADEVA NULLIFY A VAISHNAV MANTRA .?
• The mind asks and gets confused IS MANTRA a indefinitive ?it can be randomly nullified or upheld ?
• MADHWACHARYA says , there is tartamya in mantras too ... a mantra tartamya is detremined by its rushi chandas devata ... SO though the mantra devata is VISHNU for VAISHNAV mantras .. as rishi and chandas changes so also the potency of mantra .. with these there are infinite variations for a mantra .. so what ARJUNA had was a lesser in tartamya mantra which RUDRA dev used Better one ..
• OH mantras have TARTAMYA .. where can we know it .. BUT for MADHWACHARYA we cannot know ...
• without this knowledge , a petty mantrik by the street side who might have had siddhi of a bhuta thinks he can take control of complete world ...
• BUt when he encounters VAISHNAVA .. he falls flat
• BUT those VAISHNAVAS who have witnessed his powers may also feel what this PONGA pndit Vaishnav can do to him ? this is lack of knwoledge
• There is one blog by NARyandasan where he has written abut his experience ,, where a chakka sadhu who had karnapisachini siddhi .. could not get any revelations by pisacha .. as this man was chanting narsimha mantra .. SO in a trance SADHU shouted throw this man out ... he is anti ....
• Till that day even the person who was reciting narsimha mantra never knew what was its power , but the pisacha knew
• RK .. there are many levels in mantras ..one exceeds other ... so remedies should be applied as per problem .. there cannot be single solution for ll problems .. else 9 crore mantras , its existence itself would be waste .. ONE mantra would have been enough // and everyone does everything with it ..
• We have been exposed to certain mantras ..as per our yogyata ... , similarly evil will also have his yogyata ... a small vanar could not have killed INDRAJIT .. only LAXMAN could kill INDRAJIT .. thats vidhi
• according as problem one should pass on the responsibility to higher beings .. you cannot cure cancer with avillage vaidya medicine ...
• VANARs in RAMAYANa or LAxman could not have revived with local medicines .. it required SANJEEVANI only that too from gandhamadan ,, one who doesnt know sanjeevani , can such doctor cure LAXMAN ?while reading ayurveda every medicine is said to cure many diseases .. BUT again there is TARTAMYA of medicine !
• SO one shoudl approach right people
• so levels definitiveness varies with level of decryotion , if you have 256 bit decryptor you ca have info and defniteness accuracy only upto 256 bit .. ie resolution only upto 2 ^ 256 .... but then if you have more and more clarity and definiteness .. if you have better decryptor
• There is tartamaya in mantras too ... Many a times non dwija members ask .. that bramhanas can get rid of sins everyday with sandhyavandana .. how can non dwija get rid .... so there is stotra for that too ...there are stotras which give phala of yagnyas ..
• now if tartamya exists in form of mantras for category A categor B etc .. then there is TArtamya even in Category A itself ... but many non dwija have left pursuing sadhana pages ... they have saturated .., similarly women have saturated on sadhana pages ... AN ven dwijas have not progressed in this year .. last active enhancement ws in last year .... so 28 years sdhana will be covered in 28 births perhaps
• there are thousands of bramhastra and others astra tooo have many variation .. this we come to know when ARjun uses agni astra on gandharva .... gandharva asks arjun , which agniastra is this he has not witnessed one like that ? that shows there are variety of agniastra .. gadharva aks arjun to teach agni astra and in return teaches arjun the art of becoming invisible ..
• a astra when used should not be used again ..that is one rule ...IN tantrasarasangraha MADHWACHARYA says one can use the mantra mentioned there in war ... BUT then there are only few mantras how can they be used again and again as astras ? this question I asked many scholars no one was aware ... BUt then I asked RAYARU .. and I got a tantra sarasangraha vyakhyana b Vasudhendra teertharu which answered this point ...