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Monday, August 5, 2013

who is stithapragnya ?

  • where does this term occur in our scriptures
  • What is ACHARYA's explanation on this ?
  • Okay let me ake things easy ... what is PRAGNYA
  • i am waiting for discussion to build up .....i am in audience
  • NOW Sri can you elaborate on it
  • Viju you need to give practica example too
  • so when in stress saying " main tumhara khoon pee jayunga " is sthithapragnya
  • viju what kind of affect he [INDRA] shoud have got ... according to you sthitha pragnya is all about enjoying women and not getting affected .. isnt that a wrong example ?
  • come back to definition of pragnya /..
  • sameer that is very prdinary meaning of pragnya
  • there is even better definitions
  • Harshala S
  • sameer yes that can be one def .. but the topic is not simple to say sthitha [ragnya is devotee of LORD
  • now that we have some definitions ...
  • what is arjun talking about samadhi ... what connection does stitha pragnya has with samadhi
  • although definitions are not yet fully explored
  • what is samadhi avastha
  • okay let me simplify even more
  • there is gyaana agyaana mishra gyaana anyatha gyaana vipareeta gyaana
  • when there no gyaana about anything it is agyaana
  • but viju does ever world get boring ? NO so how does one come into contact with something new when one does not get bored ... so there is somethings amiss in the argument and more assumption
  • viju the fact is world never gets boring is proven fact ..the more one gets into vishayas the more he is drawn into it .. so the begining of argument that chocoalte can be replaced is wrong
  • let us get to the root
  • who will replace ?
  • when world doesnt get boring adhyatma when will it start
  • so let me assist
  • when gyaana about something is not there it is agyaana
  • suppose someone does try to know something
  • he gets some gyaana .... but this gyaana is laden with sanshaya
  • so its is misha gyaana
  • mishra gyaana
  • when sanshaya is removed ..one gets yathartha gyaana
  • so gyaana can be classified as yathartha
  • further as vigyaana and pragyaana
  • so yathartha is about knwoing thing in reality .. and without any doubt ..
  • when a thing is known as something different than yathartha it is anyatha gyaana
  • most of science and scientific explanation comes undder this category
  • Knowing things in exactly opposite to yathartha is vipareet gyaana
  • now when yathartha is knwon with clarity and with vedangas .. it is vigyaana
  • suppose taking a medicine relieves one of diease is yathartha gyaana
  • then how it actually relieves the diesease .. what are varieties of medicines how they differ in different situation s etc etc .. is vigyaana
  • similarly there is HARI in hrudaya is yathartha gyaana
  • knwing exactly what is the colour size of LORD hari residing in the heart , where exactly in what position on what lotus is vigyaana
  • Meditating on such vigyaana gives vision of such knwoledge ..
  • this vision is knwon as Pragyaana
  • one who has such vision of his knwoledge is pragnyaavaan
  • when one is steadfast in this vision is STHITHAPRAGYAAN
  • when there is steadfast vision in all types of knwoledge one is aparoxi
  • now with this definition .. analyse the words questions of ARJUN
  • how does a sthithapragyaan speak
  • I am in audience
  • SAY YOU ARE IN OFFICE ! YOU HAVE A PROBLEM .. YOU GO TO A PERSON WHOM YOU FEEL IS WISE MAN ... AND TELLL YOUR PROBLEM .. HOW WILL BE THE SPEECH OF WISE MAN IF 1> HE IS JUST WORLDLY WISE HAVING SOME GOOD AND BAD EXPERIENCE 2>WISE ON ACCOUNT OF ENGILSH EDUCATION 3> WISE ON ACCOUNT OF WIDE TRAVEL AND HAVIG SEEN VARIOUS PEOPLE AND CULTURES 4> WISE ON ACCOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE 5> WISE ON ACCOUNT OF TRADITION BACKGROUND [HISTORY OF WISE PEOPLE IN FAMILY ] 6> STHITHAPRAGNYA
  • MM
  • i amm all ears
  • say someone is unemployed what will be advices from 1 to 5
  • sthithapragnya sees your problem ...
  • example ... deewan venkanna and RAYARU
  • did rayaru help get job or did RAYARU make him most eligible for JOB so that job walked to him
  • so sthitha pragnya solutions are different than normal people
  • his speech is different .... RAYARU did not say .. okay venkanna go to nawaab and tell him RAYARU has said give me a job
  • now most people would expect such a solution
  • instead RAYARU said ... remember me when you are in need
  • arey bhai main job pooch raha hun ... aap khatre ki baat kar rahe hai . if viju would be there his question would but RAYARU when I am in your shelter why will khtra come .. No i ask why shoudl khatra come
  • RAYARU walks away
  • so questioning always does not help
  • STHITHAPRAGNYA speech will be GUDHABHAVAGARBHIT
  • why did RAYARU not give him instant job ... that is not work of sthithapragnya ... a mantrika would do that
  • a bengali baaba would say okay tommoroorw take your cows to open ground in east .. put some bhasma there and a amy will come ..
  • and with bhasma he would get a job ...
  • soon he will be kicked out of job too
  • but he will be ever caught in the jaal of baba
  • BUT a Sthithapragnya ways are different
  • Now somebody asked previously how RAYARU teaches
  • does he teach personally
  • HE TAUGHT DEEWAN VENKANNA MANY LANGUAGES RAJNEETI VEDAS ALL IN A instant in memory
  • VEKANNA is live example of how a illiterarte boy god for nothing could read sanskrit /pharsi understand hidden meaning and suggest a ploy
  • some argue it was poorvajanma ... now if education could come through poorvajanma nobody would ever go to school
  • so RAYARU by taking his name in apatta .. taught him [ rather DMA write ] all the knwoledge ... with that knowledge nd at opportune moment as that KING in distress .. and you are saviour ... A JOB IS FIXED
  • now this no jugglery ... STHITHRAGNYA DOES NOT DO JUGGLERY
  • a MISHRAGYAANI would say .. ah it was all predestined ... hamare aise naseeb kahaan
  • thats NS iska kuch nahi hosakta
  • So sthithapragnya is not interested in your pralaapa .. oh I am the most unfortunate man on this earth .. 5 years i have nothing to do no job ... no work .. no fame .. no money .. i went there here did that did this .... as his the whole fault is of world ... STHITHA PRAGNYA is not interested in this talk .... he knows your problem .. he knows you do not know your problem ,, he knows you cannot do what it takes to overcome the problem ... he solves it for you ... but never ever lets you know that he has solved your problem
  • why does he sole you problem
  • He solves your problem to take you lose to your goal
  • while loukik guus wuse men .. may advise and solve your problems by recommending a job .. or creating a job or you .. or someone might impress you with a job bhiksha .. and say look i can do anything ..but all these will take you away from your goal
  • Venkanna became deewaan and was instrumental in BRUNDAVAN AT MANTRALAYAM today
  • venkanna did a great seva in arranging a place for RAYARU ...
  • the PLACE WHICH IS SHELTER FOR ALL OF US EVEN AFTER 340 years
  • what enabled venkaan do such a great seva
  • Venkanna went a step close to HARI with his job .. a present from RAYARU
  • VEnkanna was in MLETCHA service
  • he was deewan to siddi masoud khaan of ADONI
  • BUT HE WAS SHELTER TO LAKHS OF BRAMHANA IN AGRAHARA AND WAS SINGLE HANDEDLY RESPONSIBLE FOR the condicive atmosphere for spread of dwaita in the region
  • NOW there is lesson to learn here
  • even if you are in sinful service ... if you single handedly form the pivot and take the heat from front to safeguard the lakhs behind .. it is yeomen service
  • that is desh kaal paristhithi
  • who was the mastermind behind such placements
  • STHITHAPRAGNYA
  • his ways are different
  • if one asks i asked for a job you gave me mletcha service why ? no one has no right to ask
  • that is why I say .. do not lament on your prarabdha to have gone overseas
  • understnd what is right and wrong ... and try hard for a dharmik life .. till prarabdha exists you will be as you have to be ... but when subhiksha kaala comes .. try to live life by dharma
  • sthithpragnya is no sufi saint who sings frenzily with hair let down ..and with broom gimmicks
  • STHITHA PRAGNY is social engineer
  • IN geeta ther is a discussion when sthithapragnya has knwon everything why does he do karma at all .. what is necessity
  • LOOK AT RAYARU .. does he require to do anything /.. when NARSIMHA appeared because of him .. he said I will give you MOKSHA ... but RAYARU REFUSED ... and took three more births
  • why did RAYARU do it ... HE IS GREAT SOCIAL ENGINEER ... HE is concerned more about us .. NO WHICH GURU will be like that who would forego his own moksha and say no I will come with battalion ... [ a battallion full of idiots cursed and unfortunates , till rayaru casts his glance ]
  • RAYARU is not only gyaani .. yathartha gyaani , but he is also a vigyaani ... [ so one cannot say how rayaru would understand science some nakhchade madhwa engg might think ] ..... above that he is praagyaani too
  • once a man suffering from acute pain in stomach in 1960s .. showed every doctor he could know
  • diagnosis was difficult
  • medicine was not so developed in iNDIA .. people rushed overseas to get operated .. and it was taken for granted that a operation overseas would solve all the problems
  • now this man had a enterprise family to look after and that was not possible
  • so he did rayar seva for three days .. and third night ,, he saw a dream in which he was in an operation theatre and an porange clad sanyasi with knife and scissors operated on him ...
  • next day morning there was no pain ... doctors saw that he was normal
  • it was miracle
  • WAS HE OPERATED ?
  • The temple that one see today in mantralayam above BRUNDAVANA is actually built by this man as a gratitude towards RAYARU
  • RAYRAU knows medicne as well ..he can teach you as well .... he can execute as well because he is vigyaani and pragyaani ...
  • Those days people were surprised as moern science was on its peak there was a discussion whether vedic sciences could ever compete with this balzingly fast advancements
  • and RAYRAU SHOWED that yes it is possible
  • people turned towards spirtitual solutions even in worst scenarios
  • THAT IS SOCIAL ENGINEERING
  • what a MADHWA SAINT DOES IS NOT MIRACLE >> it is shastra
  • SURPRISING GIMMICKS called miracles are done by roadside domabaaris
  • A STHITHAPRAGNYA does what is best in that era in terms of knowledge and equipments
  • SO do not hesitate in seeking solutions here ... INTHA PARABHUVA KANENO >> MANTRALYA PRABHU
  • So why bother wise men of the world with your problems ... you will get only half hearted depressing solutions ...
  • STHITHAPRAGNYA like RAYARU gives optimum solution ///
  • he is here exclusive to give you solutions ... there is no delay no appointments required ..no fees is levied ... no distinction is done wrt your fiancial situation ....
  • he doesnt treat you based on likes dislikes ... he is no hurry to rush to another place for catering to some other clients ...
  • he is not dependent on computers to look into your case history ...nor is his server ever in downtime .. there is no power supply problem .. nor is he understaffed
  • he doesnt have a family to look after ... so he is available 24/7 365 days
  • NDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES YOU CAN EXPECT A GLORIOUS SOLUTION LIKE VENKANNA
  • now time for QA
  • RAYARU is so dayalu that great dasaru has said .. I do not know how to pray .. I do not know how to praise because i am not profiecient in laguange ... i am no bhakta .... i am no good man either because i am deeply entrenched in kaama krodha mada matsarya ...lobha moha .. but oh RAYARU i intend to be your student why dont you take me as one ...
  • see even greats have given up the ways and procedure
  • you know there is a saying .. when someone sees the obedient worker / a sincere executer even the most hardworking becomes lazy ...
  • with RAYARU I think this saying goes in his praise
  • harshala ... when one stops giving advice from ones own experiences and stops acting as per ones own experience and instead acts as per dharma and shastra .. that is the first step towards sthithapragnya
  • ramesh your question is wonderful
  • viju... loukika wise men give solutions according to desha kaal aparisthithi .. which is in todays world always away from goal of sadhana
  • Chitranna is very dear to RAYARU
  • RAmesh question can be answered manifolds
  • firstly when a question is to be posed .. its simple .. take a bath and and do sankalpa that you want a answer to such such question .. and japa of rayaru 1000 times close the issue
  • the answer comes in a unique form ..
  • the uniqueness is beyond your intelleigence and usual analysis parametrs .. i can say with confidence any superconscience man can know that follwoing is not my THOUGHT ...
  • yeh vijay mahesh bhat suna limbu bhat kaun hai
  • dasrau says kalyaani ... aa mantravu ee japa upadeshavilla anta khinna vaguvudu beda ... naam vondu iralu yeke bhayave
  • I think we have seen yet another aspect of RAYARU's persoality today
  • stithapragnya always accepts prarabhda ... here the uniqueness with which HARI works around with prarabdha of sthithapragnya is the subject matter of gappa goshthi of wise
  • RAJADHIRAJ guru sarvabhauma govinda govinda ...
  • shubh ratri
  • vijay naivedya cannot be offred to yatis ...
  • you can offer a coconut and say please accept chittraanna from me he will be pleased .. or give chitranna hastodaka [ give rice ... tadka items to ] rayar mutt
  • rice ghee mustards and dry cocunut donate karo jogeshwari mutt mein
  • namak packit mat bhuliyo
  • he will come sincere worship .. sincerety in thoughts .... leave excess questioning .. [ otherwise braharaksha janma will come ]
  • vaada should be to enhance knwoledge and not look for chidras
  • when a genuine sanshay comes it troubles day and night .. only such sanshay shoudl be taken up in vaada
  • chidranveshana will give vatounmada
  • people with vatounmada .. move unnecessarily .. laugh intemittently .. shake vehemently legs and arms or head
  • twitch nose ... make fun .. and will have slant mouth
  • they will be always in excited state and will never ever ty to concentrate on subject matter but something different
  • they talk with lot of gaps .. and animatedly they talk
  • they wpuld not be happy unless they have surprised someone
  • they cannot sit quietly in one place ...
  • they cannot spend time alone
  • so one must be composed and GAMBHIR
  • shubha ratri
  • suprabhaat

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