what is Bhagavat Dharma ?

• This question was asked by HUNTER to SHANKH rushi !
• Shankh Rushi said - the acts by which chitta [mind ] becomes shuddha [pure] , [ yen chittavishuddhisyaat ]
• 2. yen sataamupakaarah - the acts by which sajjana satvikas are benefited , such saatvik acts which do not lead to LoKNINDA [ illfame,illreputation ] but is agreeable to all saatvikas , that act which arises from the kowledge of shruti and smriti such act also becomes nishkaam then know it to be SATVIKA dharma even if it is lokaviruddHA IE against the times and geeral notion of the world [or majority of people ] .
• chaturvidha hi te dharma ! it is of four types
• according to varnaashram vibhaaga [ divisions of varna and ashrama ]
• and three types according to Nitya NIMMITTIKA kAAMYA
• if all the above acts if offered to VISHNU [ vishnusamarpita yadi ] ....tada va saatvika gneyaa dharma BHAGAVATA SHUBHA ......know them all to be auspicious saatvika BHAGAVATA DHARMA
• Varna ashrama dharma can be followed only when one has conviction , conviction to do what LORD has asked to do !
• to do all these one needs what is known as " kashtasahishnuta"
• what is KASHTA SAHISHNUTA ?
• the tendency to embrace hardships for the sake of dharma is kashtasahishnuta
• this is remarkable quality [ and its intensity ] is what differentiates individuals
• while everyone talks about dharma , philosophy ,hari preeti , but how much one can strain oneself to actual cary them out is very important and varies from individual to individual.
• some go out of way [ RAYARU left everything at 25 , his family was almost orphaned . a child who had not completed upanayana .a wife who was still in teens , and family was in abject poverty , yet when the call of dharma came he took sanyaasa ]
• JAYATEERTHAru just switched off from a affluent life [ he was king of area near sandhyavali river ] , with two beautiful wives , and full of youth and splendour .. and yet when call came .. renounced everything ...
• these are highest examples
• viju has excellent capability to go offtrack
• May 9, 2012 at 3:34am
• WHen we talk about vARNASHRANA DHARM , VARNA DHARMA OF bRAMHIN IS yajan yaajan adhyayan adhyaapan daan pratigraha
• so Bramhin must primarily spend time doing yagnas , [ for self and others ] , studying , teaching [ vedas , hari sarvottama concept ] , taking daana and giving daana
• in ashram dharma , bramhachari spends time in learning without wasting time on pleasures , grahastha does panchayagnya , vaanprastha does vrata upavasa , sanyasa does upasana awaiting death
• Now given our desh kaal paristithi , [ geo socio political economical conditions ] .... can we follow varnashrama dharma ? what is the meaning of this question ?
• BRAMHINS have no conducive atmosphere to do yajan yaajan adhyayan adhyaapan without worrying for their livelihood
• Bramhachaari ie upto age of 25 ... one cannot stay away from streeprekshana [ female promiscuosness ] as coeducation is order of the day , dating is fashionable ,eveteasing is forte of stars , egoistic flaunting of papa's car , pocket money and disco culture is cool factor ... totally against the indriyanigraha concept of BRamhachaari
• I remember SRIDEVI C beig repeatedly disturbed by the fact that why some castes have exceptional wealth and bramhins have no acumen to earn wealth ?
• this thinking is develops out of total switching off from VARA ASHRAMA dharma
• ignoring desha kaal parosthithi means facing hardships [ a Sridevi's concerns shows ]
• VIJU [ ur interpretation of problem ] in terms of prarabdha is totally off track [ it agains opens up JK ] when there is talk of dharma , it is meant for jeeva to execute , execute with conviction . one cannot shy away from failure saying it was prarabdha ...
• May 9, 2012 at 4:02am
• chota sa break !
• May 9, 2012 at 4:45am
• a vaishya is known by how much wealth he has , he is respected accordingly .. kshatriya is known by how much strength he has , the strongest is respected more , shudra is respected by how much aged he is .... the older he is the more he is respected ...BUT a BRAMHAN is resepected by knowledge he posseses , the more the knowledge he has more he will be respected , even among the bramahanas [ and also a group of people of various castes ] a bramhana who has more knowledge even if he is poor , even if he is frail ,. even if he is small [ of seven eight years age ] , he is more respectable ...
• what is the need of heading to jungle ? acharana is always through mind ... ashramadharma and varna dharmacan be followed everywhere
• when it comes to failures people blame prarabdha !but when it coes to try out dharma, they even tremble to take first step .... why not take first step leaving everything on prarabdha ...kala [ just do namaha and jump I will do varna ashramadharmapalana ]
• when one tries to follow dharma , one may face some testing moments but if one sticks to dharma , its LORD who makes everything conducive
• in ekachakra nagar .. pandavas had nothing todo...they had to conceal their identity , but were living in the disguise of bramhana .. so they had to live by BHIKSHA ....
• but a KSHATRIYA should never take BHIKSHA ... but oeust do something to survive . it should be according to dharma as well .. So All the Pandavas look at BHEEMASENA
• BHEEMASENA takes a huge bowl as big as a building raises it in one palm and makes huge ROAR ... and places the bowl in centre of city ,, people out of fear place all the bhiksha in it ... SO it saved BHEEMSEN of Asking .. and it was like vasooli ...taking hafta without asking
• BADRIJI if you were to be appearing for group discussions in CIVIL services u would have been sent out of the room/// kindly stick to discussion or stick discussion to ur query
• NOW Bheema only and only followed bhagavat dharma ..but his terrorising ways would have exposed pandavas ....so YUDHISHTHIR decides to retain BHEEMA at house and other pandavas goout for literal BHEEKSHA
• let us analyse this
• BHEEMA out and out followed the dharma and faced testing times ..LORD intervened and gave him total exemption[ extreme krupa ] .. YUDHISTHIRA feared desh kaalparisthithi ... so he had to forego dharma
• so more we follow dharain tying times ..[actually need not follow ,just try to followmake effort ] LORDmercifully makes the atosphere evenore conducive
• dadagiri is dharma of kshatriyas ...dadagiri for HARI preeti
• earning wealth , trade is dharma of vaishya
• Panadavas hadjust escaped fire accident consipiracy ...so they had taken shelter under a poor bramhana ..DUryodhna had spies all over universe .... so Yudhisthir wanted to reach back Hastinapur safely and wanted to avoid another concipiracy .. If BHEEMA had contnued vasooli in a fearful manner then word would have spread from MAHBOOBNAGAR [Ekchakranagar ] to Hastinapur ..that someone ......and immediately conclusion would be BHEEMA is alive .
• Panadavas were in the disguise of BRAMHANA ..bramhana with bowlin hand going to any hand gets BHEEKSHA , as it is dharma to give Bheeksha to the Bramhana at the time of vaishwadeva ... people gave to PANADAVAS thinking the to be bramhanas as dharma .... we are discussiing here from the point of view f PANDAVAS who were essentially Kshatriyas .. [ though in disguise of BRAMAHANAS , they cannot follow dharma of bramhana ... ] hence Yudhishthir and others had to be lineant with dharma
• Usually Bramhana comes at door step with BHAVATI BHiksham Dehi ... and that is asking daana ...BHEEMSEN did not do it .. HE gave HUNKAARA .... others did it
• in previous yuga , for any caste , the people born to that caste and sudras could cook ...and people born to that caste and higher caste could also cook
• suuda is intermix of kshatriya vaishya ... sairandri is not sudra .. cross of [Kshatriya + vaishya ] X married to [ VAishya + kshatriya ]
• bheeksha for killing ego is wrong .. infact ego rises if bheeksha is taken with shame
• coming back to topic
• ability to face hardships for the sake of DHARMA is paramount to be able to tread bhagavat dharma
• LORD RAAMA , showed that it is important to respect FATHER's words ... and even when FATHER is not alive one must still respect his views and words and promises and wishes and aims
• LORD RAAMA exhibited highest kind of KAshta sahishnuta [ although there never any type of kashta for LORD , he does things effortlessly and does not feel strain or stress or misery ] .... going to jungle on a valkal vastra and not seeing the face o city or town for 14 years is great challenge
• while seeing RAMAYANA or MAHABHARATA people perhaps do not analayse in deep as to what constitutes vanvaasa
• VAnavaasa means , not having second pair of clothing
• ground messy with all kinds of insects , flies and bugs stings ,snakes what not
• sleeping on ground
• vanvaasa means not having footwear and walking through thorny bushes ,and fear of posionous stings , danger of wild animals attacking from anywhere , no lights only darkness , no open lands but weeds and lack of food and water at disposal ...
• danger of tribals , maneaters , demons , pisachas and other cruel beings
• how many days can one sustain such a atmosphere ?
• WHY WAS VANVAASA forced onto LORD RAAMA or PANDAVAS ?
• IF vanavaasa is not given , then these Great personalities could settle in any other city or village . from there they would immidiately become head / king of village or city [ people would enthrone loking at potecting capabilities ] .. then being kshatriya they would do ASHWAMEDHA YAGNYA and again win all the kingdoms
• so VAnvaasa would disallow them any human interaction or duties of civilisation
• Prahalaad raya never disobeyed his father or used harsh words or talked in a antagonising manner
• NOw coming back to discussion , talking more about KAshta SAHISHNUTA .. HARISHCHANDRA just for the sake of truth prepared himself to lose everything ! KINGDOM WIFE SON and even caste
• Its beyond human comprehension to delienate what is prarabdha and sachita ... Krishnadevaraya had VYASARAYA as his guru ,, and yet went without son even though he had two wives .... KIng of kings did he never ask for a son to isatarthaprada VYASAYATIVARYA ?
• man is affected by all the three sanchit prarabdha agaami at a time
• coming back to discussion
• somewhere there is misunderstanding that "if one is given permission to fight back , one can do miracles . one is sitting back idly because he is accepting destiny " what a gross miscalculation of self capabilities
• let me elaborate more in detail
• one is in village where there is no doctor ! and one has no knowledge of ayurveda or medicine ..... one falls ill ...
• what can the person do ? accept destiny
• but if there is a very good able famous doctor available in the townside ... then one sits and thinks .... if it were in my destiny that doctor would have actually been in my village ...why shpould i go to townside .... its my destiny .... wellwisher says .. why not go to townside and show doctor ! now who is right ?
• thirdly if one hiself is very good in ayurveda and knows what is wrong with him and where he will get medicines to cure himself .. and is very sure of cure ... will he even wait to think about destiny ?
• SO knowledge is paramount ...if by knwoledge of ayurveda or astrology one knows that its all over .. instead of lamenting on destiny one will sit in dhyaana or like parikshit call SHUKA MUNI and listen to BHAGAVAT
• Hrishikesh question is not offtrack .. the question is what should form the impetus for DHARMA .... how can we decide its time for BHAGAVAT dharma ... or time for sitting idle
• sitting idle - seven generations of Surya vamsha kings struggled to release some great grandfather who is still in form of ashes in some unknown land
• what we do in such situation ... some astrologer says ...you have pitru dosha ... immediately answer will be I have done this I have done that .. we have done everything .... [ this astrologers just keep extracting money ]
• So after some the very generation which does gaya shraddha etc sits IDLY ... we have done everything now its prarabdha !
• So after some the very generation which does gaya shraddha etc sits IDLY ... we have done everything now its prarabdha !
• So after some the very generation which does gaya shraddha etc sits IDLY ... we have done everything now its prarabdha !
• then if problem persists , next generation will say "yes there is saying we have dosha ... " and discussion ends ... nobody actually struggles hard to relieve the soul [ that is pitru dosha ] what everyone is worried is my problem due to pitru dosha over ?
• So after some the very generation which does gaya shraddha etc sits IDLY ... we have done everything now its prarabdha !
• So after some the very generation which does gaya shraddha etc sits IDLY ... we have done everything now its prarabdha !
• So after some the very generation which does gaya shraddha etc sits IDLY ... we have done everything now its prarabdha !
• So after some the very generation which does gaya shraddha etc sits IDLY ... we have done everything now its prarabdha !
• So after some the very generation which does gaya shraddha etc sits IDLY ... we have done everything now its prarabdha !
• But to do DHARMA what is required is Are we in a position to take pains ? If you suggest an atheist spend some amount for a pitru he would get insecure
• noral humans spend NOT SURE what they are doing ? they spend and then wait KAAM HUA KYA ? and then immediately start crying I did this I did that but nothing happened ? and next question on blog would be ... ONE ASTROLOGER TOLD ME THIS DOSHA .. is this dosha REALLY there ? and owrse aisa pitru vitru dosha rehta hai kya SACHCHI MEIN ? in relaity is there anything like piru vitru dosha [ that vitru shows casualness ]
• so every DHARMA what is required is complete conviction that yes I must follow dharma ...
• FATHER's words ... why should it be taken so seriously ?
• okay give him some respect .. but man going to JUNGLE for his words ' sake ,, too much kya jaroorat hai ...
• okay I am ready to go to jungle .. but what to do my father himself said dont GO ... now should I obey my FATHER or his WORDS ? [ HRISHIKESH i think PARHALAADRAYA QUESTION IS ANSWERED here by RAAMA ]
• Great grandfather is lying in ashes ... TOH MAIN KYAN KARUN .. bhai BAAL BACHCHE WAALA AADMI HUN .. PATAAL kab jayunga aur kab yeh hoyenga ...by the way PATAAL jaane ka raasta kaise hain ... AI jaati hain
• So DHARMA is about what ?
• pleasing father , pitru , devta , is this DHARMA .... ? [ MAIN KYA SIRF GHAASNE AYAA HUN .... DISCO KAB JAWOONGA ...europe trip bhi nahi hui yaar abhi tak ... kaash woh thoda ghaas daalti ? ]
• SO from the above example what we see is DHARMA is about prioritising something more than SELF
• Putting something above self is KASHTA
• primafacie daring to attempt it is SATVIK laxan
• HOW much we can put above SELF is the matter of TARTAMYA !
• IF one has to see HOW MUCH SATVIK are we ? how will we evaluate ?
• SAY I COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND STAY FOR A MONTH ! Will I get same treatment from DAY one though DAY 30 ?
• JUST SATVIK will greet say hello and talk as much he can and then look at the wall clock .. why this man is showing no intention to leave .. has he any plan to stay over
• better SATVIK will express happiness and offer to stay for lunch
• he will be dismayed if the stay extends beyond noon . slowly family members will take afternoon nap and then get up and one of the family members unknowingly ask has the guest left .. finding him just in front...........
• whether you are working in corporate world or underworld ... if you are doing two times sandhyavandana .. engaging in learning one sentence of veda ...teaching your youngster one word of shastra [ bhagavat shastra ] ..... doing seva of GURU BRAHMANA and ELDERs .. doing deva pooja ,... using you dravya in satvik upakaara [ awar jeevan dalli ishtu uppu kaara challodu ] .... and increasing vairagya is bhagavat dharma for all
• NOW what is GURU BRAMHANA ELDERs sushrusha
• This is the most important aspect of this discussion ... and i would like to dwell with elaborate examples to show though everyone is SATVIK ,. does devapooja . is hari bhakta , yet fail in the eyes of LORD ...where ? GURU BRAMHANA HIRIYAR sushrusha
• first LEt us discuss ELDERS
• mantra siddhi comes only if ashtang yoga siddhi occurs .. the first of yoga anga yama itself comes only if there is GURU BRAMHANA AGNYAjan SUSHRUSHA
• No amount of HARI pooja , daana dharma upavaasa shastrartha works if one is not successful in satisfying the AGNYAJAN
• here the world dynamics enters .. till now as we were discussiing shastra dharma in a bookish way ... things looked nice .... it gave us a chnace to bash our bad neighbourhood .. irresponsible youth ..etc etc ... but exactly where do we fare in the eyes of LORD MUKHYAPRANA is more important ... for that it is important to know what are parameters of evaluation
• that is because ... a old people , young widows [ bramhana ] , a dear friend who has lost everything , enemies son ..a learned bramhana ....a blood relative is always entitled to stay in house ...that is dharma ... one should not turn them down
• asking people to leave [ no kashta sahishnuta ] is sin .. here dynamics come into play
• kunti served DURVASA for years ... people feared in that yuga itself DURVASA ... in previous yuga ... people were naturally dharma conscious and went overboard .. in that era .DURVASA was not welcome even for a second .. as his stringent parameter for GURU BRAMAHAN sushrusha instantly ended in curse [ sometimes even before encounter ended curse was ready ] //// BUT KUNTI pulled out a miracle not only she saw to it that DURVASA [ DURVASAru is one of the first sanyasis of MADHVA MATHA ] was pleased and also got boon from him
• now let us say we know a person is powerful and very short tempered and our superior ... if he comes to us for some interaction .. very well knowing .. if anything goes wrong the gentleman is going to punish and punish badly ... instead of approaching him with clean happy mind .. we will immediately get agitated and if he finds any fault with us we start justifying ourselves and want to prove that he is unencessarily making it a point and is just seeking avenues to punish .. we just want to blame him and the psychilogical war starts the moment he enters the scene
• where is SUSHRUSHA it ha sgone for toss ... SUSHRUSHA only in swastha awastha ... I must be settled ... i shoudl not have any problems ... and the person who comes to me must only praise me approve my actions all actions .. and should not criticise and or be dominant .. if he does then helll with sushrusha .. you are not welcome .... mere ghar me akaar mere ko hi lecture !
• BUT I AM SATVIK >./. I WANT TO DO BHAGAVAT DHARMA thats for discussion .... when it comes to execution for that split second i forget ... WHY ?
• May 10, 2012 at 8:50am
• WE ARE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS MINDSET OF PEOPLE ... WHEN I HAVE DECIDED TO FOLLOW dharma .. i would not see how many by my side are doing it ,.... I MUST FOLLOW
• now when behaviour is faulty ... Bhagavt dharm will not take off
• let me give some wordly example .. where even learned would forget dharma ... what i have seen through i am enumerating
• Sreedevi Chulki getting hurt is ego playing in the mind ...its defect .. if you dont get hurt ... the remarks would go waste .. if they brag just praise them even more ... but that doesnt mean you leave interaction .. yes inetraction with tamas is not required .. near dears will be satvik [ some daitya avesha ] u cannot shy away from society ... people live to compare themselves with others ,... a neighbour buys a gold ... after we have purchased gold first thing is we want to make it known to neighbour see i have matched you
• why deprive someones happiness of overtaking us
• I have lost wealth to the position of zero ... many times in my life .. such situations will come again .... poeple especially point out whats the use of intellgence knowledge in bad days ... but one must take it smilingly and not rebutt
• after earning huge wealth ... i had to borrow rs seven for bus ticket to reach out to friend
• so ego more it is in play more unhappiness it gives
• and everytime I have lost it not by mistake or folly but by forcible loot by tamas people ... all in presence of very trusted people
• when things go wrong ..one must always put the head down and accept the fate ...
• everytime a loss occurred .. LOrd has given me even better rise than previous in avery short period of time much to the surprise of people around .. now people feel i fake that i dont have anything even when there is loss ..
• sukha vagali bahudukhavaagali .. hari neeobbane jagadodayanu emba gyaanvu sadaa karunisiayyaa ..... nee ittange iruvenu hari
• with multiple harmoics
• harmonics
• what dasaru says ... in happiness or in extreme misery .., please give me only one knowledge firmly that YOU are the only one who is the RULER of the world .. ie everything is happeneing according to your directions .. I will stay as you wish to keep me
• what happens someone ill treats us .. we think he is ill treating us ... he is bad man ... he is jealous ... BUT what is reality .. it is our poorva janma karma sins .. and HARI is washing it off by giving us ill treatment .... SHOULD WE ACCEPT HARI's verdict or GRIND OUR TEETH AGAINST THE BAD MAN
• dying fo woman children bramhana is duty for all
• garuda purana says .. one can digest kaalkoota visha , one can digest iron filings .. but nobody in this world can digest the money of the bramhana .. [ one should not cheat bramhana of money ] ... the sins of looting a bramhana uns down the family till family is extinct .. generations together people suffer .. till one fine day generation is wiped out ..
• so why punish ourselves
• Is LAW punishing all murderers ....
• So dharma should be followed fearlessly
• whether in good times or bad times
• once I was a zero ... and yati stepped into my house .. he wanted to do a yaaga .. there was not a single re in house to give for dakshina too ... the whole team of yati was in the main hall with much hope ..
• all the family members with heavy heart gathered in pooja room ... and with folded hands stood speechless before LORD
• recited Venkatesh stotra
• My uncle came suddenly from nowhere[ he lived in a different city ] .. he stepped in to do paada pooja .. as we were all of same gotra ... it did not matter .. as he was elder too ... he took all the responsibility without even bothering to ask whats wrong ?
• WHEn there is willingness ... HARI himself does it fior you ... earlier i used to go long distance to buy herbs for deva pooja .... infact spend ten times more on transport to fectch a little herbs ...
• after sometimes ... now i am seeing three four five herbs selling stores have been opened by bramhanas right opposite my house
• earlier i used to roam in muddy lanes to get cowdung for homa .. seek cajole ppeople [ often sudras ] to give cow dung .. they would say they just throw them away ... if i want i can collect it from their backyard ,..
• backyard of huts
• after many such attempts ... One rayar mutt employee saw my plea and said what is this sir ... we throw away cowdung on streets .. and some truck comes and picksit up monthly ... why dont you take it to your house .. now i get cow dung of rayar mutt cow
• what I am stressing is you try once ...YOu walk one step and LORD walks ten steps to you
• try kashtasahishnuta [ in your own imited way ] and do gau sushrusha agnyajan sushrusha , bramhana ssuhrusha , guru devata sushrusha
• and things will change ..
• you will not have reasons therafter of time society
• moving ahead .... real story ..one brahana had two wives two sisters
• elder gave birth to two daughters and died
• second one did not have any issues ... she looked after both the children and one daughter brought up children in a manner to serve elders .. the other daughter married rich man ... she never sent her chidren to look after old lady .. every week children of first would go and fetch water from long distant well and keep pooja room clean ... old lady was very religious .. once it happened the children of second daughter too came to village simulatneously ,... as the first were bringing water ... the old lady was engaging the second daughters children with ice creams purchased from stores ... but still failed to purchase the same for the first daughters chidren .. CHIKDREN FELT BAD .... what is the use of religious nature of OLD LADY ?
• her fault she wanted to do vasha of second daughters children by hook or crook ..all the while she was over confident of first ones ...
• moha
• people of category who can give agnya [order ] to us is agnyajan
• some ore glaring examples ..are people build houses and rent it out to relatives ... why rent ?
• some do not rent it to relatives as they may not give rent timely and force may not be possible so even if brother is struggling next house giving rent .... one will rent once own house to strangers and ask same brother to collect rent for him in his absence
• all of them will do rayar seva urulu seva , dance in aradhana , serve food in festivals .... do teertha yatra but whats the use ?
• at the same time brother will not occupy the house of brother ... instead will pay rent to a sahukaar ... but will not take obligation of relative
• Dharma is in smaller things .... which we ignore in day to day life ....
• people will not forego share in property citing misintentions of coowners .... what if one gets more one gets less ... such an attitude shoudl come to sahdaka ..
• attitude with smile not in a lamenting way now because other fellow is dushta ... he ahs usurped my property and so i say ... prrapti shoudl be there
• when a group is invited to house .. person who is eligible should be given pada pooja in a function like marraige upanayana namakarana grahapravehsa ... but we dleiberately choose our fatherin law to impress him ...and annoy own relations ... ignore learned bramhanas in the gathering ....
• bhagavat dharma ... hey this is my function .... you are suppose to watch and say you ahve done excellent function ... your in law was brimming with pride ... [ but you widowed mother was shying behind the door with half smile and tears ]
• this is not a social comment , its a discussion on bhagavat dharma ...some feel how to accord a pada pooja to widowed mother [ its a shubha function ] and next elder is my in law ...
• so he feels he is right ... after all my shubha is more important ... MOTHER is always shubha shuntha ...nobody is there to tell !
• My grandmothers' sister is frail and her sons do not take her to any place she spends all her time in a single room often closed as all family members go out working .. to avoid criticism she has been declared mentally unsound ... once when mother called up her house ,. the family spoke well an then suddenly hearing my mothers voice on speaker she insisted she wanted to speak .. she burst into tears and said i have heard daughter in law is very beautiful ... i have no fortune to even meet you all ...all i can only hear and be satisfied .... my mother next thing is she aksed all of us to pack bags and go and take her blessings ... she was living faar away but mothers order never to be overiden ... granny spoke to us for 4 hours and there was no signs of mental disorder or fraility she cane all the way till street corner to see us off ... all the while her son was ashamed for not bringing her to marraige ..
• there was atwinkle in her eyes and happiness of having met someone from her relations after years .... ther could not have been a better sushrusha for me than this .... it is rightly siad that MOTHER is great guru of all .... I realised walking that extra mile to satisfy someone has its own merit ... can there be abetter teertha yatra than this ?
• the son distributes vijayaraya kavach all over the city participates in aradhana and does many poojas is very religious man ....
• a pratilomaj who has grown in our vicinity playing with my brothers .. listeneing to my lectures .... his mother left him .father ditched mother ,... brought up by grandmother [ who is today 99 ] and mothers sisters who are half mad and unmarried ... all brothers of the mother ditched the family .. he grew in a small two room hutment ..became engineer .. and married and looked after mothers sisters and grandmother ... in his own house .... got heart operation to grandmother at 98 .... spending laksh of rs ,... when he asks me bhau what pooja i have todo .. i sy u need not do anything ,... you already are doing great pooja ... he has progressed by leaps and bounds in companies of repute ... but rejected all offers of foriegn assignements ,...
• simple mantra never do chidranveshana in elders ,... never try to look for faults in elders .. while you can enumerate them to say it is against dharma .. but such an contemplation of elders mistake should not be taken as a cue to base interaction ..
• infact no interaction should be based on other mans character ... it should be based on situatonal dharma
• i think people are bored of this thread ...
• seeking minor defects in a good person ....
• i have already said .. one must not label anyone god or bad by his immediate karmas
• one must never preach elders .. except if you are higher in tartamya [ and if you know it ] ... non bramhana s shoudl not preach bramhanas .. even if they think they know better ...
• misunderstandings , kalaha are all doshas .... if one is elder to you than one must go and clarify ,,after that if they dont workout then doisha parihaara must be done .... once dosha parihaara is done misundertandings autmatically go
• first step is to prepare self for taking extra pain ..teaching body to withstand ego trampling .... not to be reactive .. is first step .. one must not feel sense of loss if one has not retaliated
• After total debacle one of my rivals who claimed himself to be a great bramhaana bhakta ... a marwari .. said ... i would have infact taken even darker revenge but i leave you because you are a bramhana ...for half an hour he spoke on ahigh pitch ...from his flat in plush mumbai and i was on his doorstep he was not willing to open door seeing from his video surveillance ,.. he went on bragging about his strength ... i did not curse him ,.... although my mind was agitated enough to curse him for what he was doing ...later he opened door and accomapanied by many prostitutes in teens .. he made lot of fun of my position ... i walked out ... till date i dont know why didnt say a single word ...but the man is running from country to country in disguise today .. fearing for life
• bhagavat dharma is not about ecouraging .. one can tread only when one gets knoweldge .. my whole post is here is stating that even if people are saativik they miss out dharma because they forget about it or jutify that my follwoing bhagavat dharm wrt this person is not warranted
• similarly with neighbours .. sharing water resources ,, etc etc .. one must not think oh last time he did like that now i will do it this way ....
• just do what is warranted
• NEVER set ones own rule
• set rules as per shastra
• forgo things for the sake of younger ones
• lookafter elders even if it means demeaning oneself ..... even though DHRITARASHTRA was responsible for all the evils to PANDAVAS they took good care of him
• having elders in house is great sancitity ,..
• yesterday i went to a temple .. an elderly person was lamenting .. his son was mtech .. and well earning .. and went to see a bride .. the bride took interview of the boy and asked ... does your father get pension ... will he be able to take care of himslef ..are you ahving own house .. do you have bank balanace .. is there any chance you would ask me to cook ./// do relatives frequently come to your house ...is there restrictions in your house ..of eating outside etc etc .if all this is there flatly i am not interested ...
• modern education and gandhian influence has somewhere left lasting impression that we must fight [ alhough nobody in reality fights but feels his birth right to fight and fughting is fashionable it gives kick ,.so one seeks doshas around to fight .] elders are powerful fghtng against them is doing something great and applaudable .... first we must think are we entitled to fight ..
• if we are entitled to fight than go out and fight the criminal at the corner of ur street ... he will beat you black and blue till the bhoot of fighting total subsides
• but we will not do that
• in bhagavadgeeta .. the reason for anger is souls attachment to thing denied arises anger ... just forget the thing which is cause of anger ... easier said
• ashabhanga is cause of anger
• superior in office cannot be termed superior ..but one must use yukti and not openly revolt
• showing off means dambhik vinaya
• no point in venting anger ... one must succeed in putting across the point .... so before taking any action one must think what am i expecting fom this action ... do i need to terrorise the person ,. or will i be successfulin making him tremble and dance to my tunes next time .. will he understand my frustration ... if all these is not seen to be achieved by shouting being angry .. then there is no use of getting angry
• in al situations .. whether at home or office its always war of control
• some control by charm , some by terror
• some by blackmail
• when boss overlooks the good work , we want to let him know you did mistake ate paapi ... narak me jayega
• motive of people is progress benefit ...etc ... its always in someoneelses hand ... u need to control that person its inherent feeling ... some use charm ... some go otherway .. see if he has any weaknesses .. exploit it and get benefits .. boss has to ignore good fellows [ often harmless ] and promote such people
• seek entitlement from hari
• let hari give reaction [ he hundred percent does ]
• put your attachments in a scale with HARI on other side ,.. see who will give more benefits ... think like vanik
• i am a merchant i will do only that is most profitable ... and long lasting deal .... is there anything more profiatble Vaikuntha
• I am a strategist .. i think only in aligning with most powerful ... is there anyone who is MORE POWERFUL THAN AHARI
• I am a pishoon I befriend only those who give me something .... HARI gives me all that I desire
• after elders we shall concentrate on GURU
• if things have becme heavy .. we shall do it later
• i am advised bed rest .. what better than hari naam sankeertana to forget pain
• okay here we go
• whenever one does some homa .// there is a ritual in it knwon as acharya varana
• what is acharya varana ?
• one should choose a good acharya ritviks and pradhaan archaka and bramhanas for homa ...
• this choosing is a ritual which is done a day before .. one goes to the house of the acharya and worships him and requests and invites him to the homa ...
• today we first ask how much for a homa .?
• pandit says a cost .. and thats it ... pandit has to do all the event management and once the poornaahuti is over ... pandit waits jejmaan dakshina .... jejmaan is happy what a homa ... how many people attended and is still busy attending to some guests and instructs his assitant yeh dakshina deke rafa dafa karo
• this is tamas homa
• it gives no result ..
• so not only homa .. if a life is not started with acharya varana ... it will become a tamas homa ./// entire life will be a tamas homa
• do all rituals in a elaborate way as possible ... dont go on fast track
• so guru is very important in life .. one must never live life wihout a guru
• MOther is first guru .. always respect her .... father is next guru ... one must never disrespect parents
• when guru is insulted ... life becomes tamas homa ..
• what is tamas homa ? at the end of tamas homa krutya is obtained and it does only destructive things ... if it cannot do any destructive things then itdestroys the karta of the homa
• so those who have insulted parents .. if they are facing troubles day in day out its no surprise ... because its krutya especially created by your own homa .. you have personalised miseries
• with each tear drop that falls from the eyes of parents ... thousands of miseries take birth in the family of the sons
• krutya is a rakshashi
• Guru should not be contradicted or angered upon under any circumstances ...
• Nemi raja asked Vahsishtha his kulaguru to do a yagnya ... but Vashishtha said i am busy in another yagnya and will do after the completion ...
• 500 years passed by in yagnya ... so Nemi raja chose gautam rishi and finished his yangya
• vashishtha came after another 500 years and said okay now lets do yagnya .. Nemi said he has finsihed it ... VASHISHTHA cursed him to
• NEMI became angry and took water to curse VASHISTHA back ... [ for cursing without fault of his ] ... his wife immediately came and told ... GURU like VASHISHTHA is from the start of KULA .. they are like pitrus .. one must not curse them ... even if they ahve done somehing wrong to us ...
• NEMI who had already taken water ... had to sipose water ... wherever disposed it would give adverse effect .. so finally he decides to pour it over his own foot .. his feet become dark and dirty ,... from then he was called KALMASHPADA
• moral of the story is alwasy accept what guru says ...
• SO if you choose a krodhi kaami incomplete gurus ... you will sustain only injuries
• So one must choose a complete guru ..THERE is NO GURU other than RAYARU who is perfect , complete and devaswabhava
• so one must do varana of RAYARU as GURU ....
• GO to MANTRALAYAM ... do shodoshopachaar pooja .. and then say OH RAYARU please accept me as shishya
• start your life thus
• what happens when we have a right guru ? making a shishya lead good life becomes responsibility of guru
• RAYARU is everywhere .. at all times in all situations ... it is his responsibility to show us what is right and what is wrong
• when guru is perfect then we can be rest assured of best guidance
• sometimes we are in problems ..but we do not want to say it ... but wants someone to just solve it ...
• humans have tendency to seek pleasure in others dukh bhari kahani ... so people say okay let me know what is your problem ..
• and while one is recounting his tale , he /she feels very diminished before other person .... and other person rejoices his temp place of gurutva .. he becomes authoritative ,.. and all knowing ... and talks nonesense and unrelated just because other person is asking he has to give advice
• rayaru is devaswabhava .... he doesnt need recounting problems ... he will not make you dainya .... he will give solutions without asking and that too making you super comfortable ..
• when we have chosen our guru ..at all functions we must invite guru bramhana and elders .. remember go to the house and invite elders ... and not on phone email ..sms chat .... that is okay for friends but for kul devta guru bramhana and elders one must visit them and invite ...
• so GURU bramhana AGNYA JAN should form fulcrum of our activities .. everyday we must get up and see if these three are satisfied with us .. is there anything that needs our attention towards these
• what has been elaborated above comes unde one category called vruddhopaseva
• in arthshastra ... it is said that one must live by dharma
• because dharma leads to happiness
• what is not dharma brings unhappiness
• To live a life of dharma one needs artha [finance ]
• seva of vruddha .. gyaan vruddha vayi vruddha tapo vruddha
• to earn one need rajya [ avocation , job ]
• rajya or job remains stable only if one has indriyanigraha
• when we are facing finacial troubles .. we must introspect somehwere indriyanigraha might have failed
• when stability ios thereatened introspect where you have expressed anger wrongly
• when we are workig we face two kinds of anger .. anger within the organisation and anger from sources external to organisation
• stability ends once these anger explodes
• so to keep stability one must have indriyanigraha ...with all senses under control one can lead successful life undisturbed ..
• To get indriyanigraha one must have vinaya
• when vinaya is lost .. indriyanigraha is lost
• loss of vinaya means enter the ego
• how is vinaya developed ?
• what should one do to develop vinaya ?
• one gets vinaya by VRUDDHOPASEVA
• those who do not look after their elders always face obstructions in career
• So follwoing dharma has its benefit even from career finance job stability point of view as well
• So GURU BRAMHANA AGNYJAN sushrusha has both iha and para benefits !!!
• in iha it develops vinaya and in para it gives VISHNU PREETI
• now what is Vruddhopaseva ?
• i want to know from u all
• how many of you have talked to mother or father while they were standing and oneself either sitting or sleeping on bed
• how many times have we given hunkaara to elders words ?
• how many times have we cut the discussion of elders .. ie interrupting even before they have finished saying
• how many times have we failed to do namaskaara to paents before leaving town on journey ?
• how many times have you failed to notice some request of parents [ trivial ] like going to market .. temple ... friends house , that old street .. that old shop ... [ oh not today I am busy .. i have work in office ]
• how many times have you failed to take your parents to that function which they wanted to attend despeartely
• how many times have you brought the favourite fruit of you mother without her asking for it ?
• how many of you have taken time out in a day just to speak few words [ gappa goshthi ] with parents ..
• how many times have you got up in midnight to check whether ur parents are sleeping well ... without discomfort
• how many times have you foregone your desire just because parents didnt like it !
• how many times have you fallen on the feet of you parents and said sorry
• finally has anyone sat calmly atleast once till now and said to himself okay i have done all this now i should do porayashchitta ?
• So looking at the list what is view of VRUDDHOPASEVA ... seems more negatve points than positive
• that means 99% fail in vrudhdhopaseva .. so no vinaya ... so no indriya nigraha .. so no rajya ,..no artha ... no dharma .[ samanya dharma ] .. HOW can we even talk about BHAGAVAT DHARMA
• So where is the cause of ego jealousy anger ...now do you understand ?
• Thats why we say do RAYAR seva , Bramahan seva , MATRU PITRU SEVA .. to gain desires , indriya nigraha and artha ...
• if this discussion would not have taken place it becomes impossible to know how rayar seva can give me a job or wealth or desires
• just imagine some can ask ... sir you mean here i take poradakshina namaskaara to my mom , and there someone will call me for interview and give job is it scientific ?
• one must do teertha yatra to do prayaschitta for all such mistakes take dip in ganaga
• relationship with parents is very special ... till they are living we do vruddhopaseva
• when they are not there ... on the day of death till 12 days ... we assist them in having every kind of comfort
• then we assisit them in their journey ... and remove every obstacle they are likely to get during journey
• because at every step of journey they look back for help to son
• the whole year long journey we make it safe for them through masik and abdika
• after is it over ?
• no we meet the daily and partake food with them in shraaddha
• we give tarpana every now and then to remind them we are here remembering them and they get immense satisfaction
• and then is it just over by taking giving food ? NO // in evey shubh karya in our house be it upanayana or marraige .. we establish nandi .. to invite all our pitrus ti witness our function and bless us .. so where is the end of relationship ,... it just gets extended to another form of body ./.
• and if we could visualise or see them as we make nandi .. we would never ever feel that they are not there .. their presence will always be felt ...
• so our seva towards parents is lic policy jeevan ke saath bhi jeevan ke baad bhi
• MATA PITA are pratayaksha devta so do not lose opportunity to serve them
• if you want the reputation of kula to exist till sun and moon exist then make RAYARU YOUR KULAGURU ..
• shubha ratri for now !
• my post now i think has some sarthaka .. atleast one person has had paschhcttapa
• we have seen GURU BRAMHANA AGYAJAN seva and its mahattva and its importance in following Dharma samanya and then finetuning to BHAGAVAT dharma .... Now we turn our attention to our dharma towards Devatas
• what is our dharma towards devtas ? any idea ?
• tell me one great thing that devatas do for us ..?
• rain sunlight and wind are visible upakaaras that can be seen ...
• as we breath , see in sunlight and eat due to rains ... dont we get indebted to Devatas ?
• so we are burdened with deva runa ...
• has anyone done homa or pooja just to say thank you devatas ? or they have done homa havana to seek desires
• what about runa ?
• yes agreed havan homa to devatas reduces runa ... suppose you owe money [emi] to your coma stores ... you go and pay your emi but in return again bring anaother appliance .. so runa reduces or increases
• what is the sankalpa you do in pooja ?
• yes so one must give ahuti everyday in aupasanagni ... agnihotra twice .. paksha homa .. etc .. these are done with an aim to say thankyou
• The essence of Bhagavat dharma as encapsulated by MADHVACHARYA in following verses
• akshayam karmayasmin paresvarpitam prakshayam yaanti dukhani yannamatah aksharaoyoajarah sarvadaivamrutah kukshigam yasya vishwam sadaajadikam preeNayaamo vaasudevam devatamandalaakhandamandanam
• yasmin pare - in sarvottam Hari Vasudeva , svarpitam -if offered with devotion , karma - the paapa punya caused by karma , karma which is prescribed by shastras
• akshayam -such karmas having inifinte fruits , dukhani- all types of miseries , yannamath- by taking name with devotion names like raam krishna ... prakshayam yaanti - gets annihilated without trace , yah aksharah - Lord one who does not perish , yah
• Madhvacharya says , vihit karma acharane should be done to please VAASUDEVA .. that is the only way to PLease him and is foremost BHAGAVAT DHARMA
• yes only varnashrama is vihit karma ....
• Dasaru taking a leaf out of mAdhvacharya 's song ... laid foundation for the BHagavt dharma and its implementation
• Vedvyasa and Srimadanandteertha have laid down anushthana .. walking this path in this tradition is known as BHAGAVAT dharma ...
• Acharya has written in sanskrit but then for common man the same ethos was handed down in simple kannada and is known as HARIDASA PARAMAPARA following which is also BHAGAVAT DHARMA .
• This can be seen in the composition written by GOpaladasaru in praise of VIJAYARAYARU ... BHAGAVAT DHARMA VAHISI VIJAYARAYA
• Bhakti YOGA is ANANDABRAMHOPASANA !
• what is that ?
• In yajurveda there are special three vallis in taittiriyopanishat knwon as BHRIGUVALLI
• because these were seen by SAGE BHRIGU ... this part of VEDA one of the most important veda knowing which only one can get MOKSHA is seen by BHRIGU ....
• sages who see Veda .. ie are mantra drashtar .
• Mantra drashta is explained in BRAMHANDA PURANA ...
• If any person who is intellegent and very smart if he had composed a very briiliant composition and does not attribute any authorship to it can that become VEDA ?
• SO Bramhanda PURANA lays down that MANTRA DRASHTAR is the one who has not less than 20 laxanas out 32 laxanas .. such a man should belong to a VEDA ADYAYANA paramapara .. the veda he sees shoudl also have been amongst the parampara and he should be a practising vedic tapasvi ./.
• SO with this SAGE BHRIGU becomes apt drashtar for TRIVALLI of YAJUSH Taiitiriyopanishat .. ..
• VIJAYADASRU is BHRIGU AMSHA and is also a mantra drastar
• BHAGAVAT DHARMA VAHISI VIJAYARAYA - so said GOPALADASRU , which BHAGAVAT dharma was he reffering to ?
• in ekadash skanda BHAGAVAT PURANA ,, LORD SRIKRISHNA explaining BHAGAVT dharma to UDDHAVA says this was practised by BHRIGU who was taught by BRAMHA ...
• LOrd SAYS BHAGAVAT dharma was lost after Pralaya ,. so He first taught it BRAMHA .. Bramha to MANu and BHRIGU and so on it spread in this world ..
• which upadesha was that ...
• it was HRUTPUNDARIKASTHA BHAGWADUPASANA which is shreshtha BHAGAVAT dharma
• This was KNOWN to SAGE BHRGU , so alo known to VIJAYARAYARU who was BHRIGU AMSHA
• pundarikastha
• NARAYANA rupi VEDVYASA has written Bramha sutras and ACHARYA MADHWA has written BHASHY for it , in that adhyaya 1 samanvayaadhyaya , guhadhikarana and dahaadhikaraa ... MADHWACHARYA has written that HRUTPUNDARIKASTHA is VISHNU only
• his upasana alone gives MOKSHA
• for this VIJAYARAYA has written 101 suladis
• which is nothing but sara of BHRIGUVALLI
• DHEERENDRATEEETHARU has written excellent vyakhyaana summing up all the above points and explaining in detail how this upasana can be done ....
• FUrther details are to be known through GURUMUKHA only ! SRKRISHNARPANAMASTU
• all these should be known through guru in person
• you have not got the point .. first one must know HARI is sarvottama through all the shastras [ sharvana ] .. then he must contemplate over all shastra and get many doubts ...find solution for all the doubts ,. even after this one wases time in various