Rayara Punya

• How much of RAYAR punya will be sufficient for us ?
• couples go to Tirupati .. they bring a big Tirupati laddoo [ slp] ... when they reach home , while taking laddo among family members , some laddoo churna [ small specs] fall on the ground .. and we see ant-couples dragging it to their homes , even they get lot of punya by the grace of SRINIVASA ...
• BUT looking at the ant couples and their zeal ,[ if they crave for more ] if the entire laddo falls on them will they survive ? can they bear it ? so as much as we can afford ! one should get only as much one can actually carry ... and not aspire beyond capacity !
• RAYARU has a gigantic LADDOO [slp slp slp ] .... even if rayaru .. showers few specs [left overs -chidakna ] those sweet laddoo we can survive for entire for whole life along with our family ...
• Viju DASARu says Bimba kasam , others say meri kasam , some sa ma kasam , mere bahchon ki kasam ... all take kasam of what is most dear to them ... have you ever seen anybody saying PATNI kasam
• In allmost entire philosophical literateur , we find statements prohibiting a repeat telecast of sansaara ie invariably the wife children , job , food scenario ...
• BUT SHRIDA VITTHALA is first dasaru who praises his wife in his songs sayng if a WIFE can lead to APAROXA JNANA , then let me get such wife again and again for 1000 times ... [ infcat 1032 would have been apt ]
• So one need not worry ,what is his problems , how much it is , what are the levels of difficulties , what is the statistical availability of cure , One needs only a spec of RAYAR punya to alleviate ones impossible problems ...
• after giving one he gets 10 .. but ten is agaami , there is no lepa for him ..... that goes to devotees ... he is on distribution spreeee
• I do not know how much one has understood satvik punya ...
• Punya is of three types .. satvik rajas and tamas ... each is again of three types
• satvik punya leads to higher lokas like mah jana etc ..beyind swarga .. it leads to birth in very rich families fully cultured and learned ... so one autmatically becomes learned and improves birth after birth ... so happiness is for ever ... its like fairytale ending for the RAYAR bhaktas " AND THE LIVED HAPPILY FOREVER "
• that FORVER carries over to next next births as well

MAnda bhagyarige dorayidu ivara seva !

• Rayar seva is only for th fortunate , others will not have inclination to do it ! ...
• Jagannatha dasaru was directed to find a apt disciple to write ending note for HARIKATHAMRUTASARA ... so he went from village to village and town to town to give lectures and finally he would ask questions on the philosophy , These gathering would be attended by many scholars in sankrit and pandits with rigourous dincharya ... but none would aptly answer the questions ...
• In one of the discourses as JAgannath dasaru raised the question , a man with beetle leaves and tobacco in the mouth and wiping the red spit with dhoti , easily answered the question ...
• The man named DASAPPA of karajagi .. was actually one immersed in vices , always running after prostitites , though a bramhin , never adered to bramhinical ways of life .. and had more dirtier habits
• Prarabdha only is responsible for such acts
• Now Jagganath dasaru arises the knowledged in this dasappa ...his words how a jnani is wrapped in dirty clothes and habits , sends shockwaves into dasappa's mind .. he realises his mistakes .. and expresses gratitude towards his wife who had actually forced him to attend the discourse of Jaganntah dasaru ...
• BUT had not DASAPPA lost his bramhantva by veshya sanga , abhaksha bhakshan etc ..
• SO how did JAgannathadasaru give him ankita of "SHRIDA VITTHALA" dasaru ?
• SO it is said , DASAPPA was asked to take up rayar seva and given padodaka .. to drink and as well as prokshana .. this revived BRAHANATva in DASAPPA by destroying all his sins ... IT was RAYAR seva that got him his aparoxa revival ... SHRIDA Vitthala dasaru wrote the phalastuti of HARIKATHAMRUTASARA
• There is no uttam prayaschitta then having RAYAR PADODAKA ... this padodaka restores all that is lost , it gives a new beginning , it revives old sadhana and takes it forward .. RAYAR seva is the ultimate in achieving what one craves for yeans for and lives for !
• ONe must do RAYAR seva to the best of his capacity , 1> those who are wealthy [ dhan bala ] should use their wealth to do RAYAR seva 2> those who are prosperous [ dravya bala ] should donate dravya ie items like vegetables , silver gold , grains ,herbs whatever they can as rayar seva 3> those who do not have above two things but yet have earnest desire to do seva , must partcipate in the utsav of rayar aradhan and serve bramhana and devotees , recite stotras , sing and dance before the Brundavana .. and make devotess happy and serve Rayaru physically ... 4> those who have knowledge should give pravachana . discourses and teach people about RAYARU and instill devotion ... ALL these will bring immense RAYAR blessings ..
• These are the preparatory days to the grand EVENT of RAYAR ARADHANA ... ALL must contribute and spend exclusive time for RAYAR seva ... ONE must make optimum use of ONCE in year event and reap complete benefits ...
• Vrunadavana and paduka are available at mantralayam inside mutt
• This is the best time to do RAYAR seva ... one must immerse into it .. plan out in advance .. take time off , reduce the burden and avocations in advance for the poorvaradhana madhyaaradhana and uttaradhana .. see to it you are free and have ample time to spend for RAYAR seva ...
• SEE what is your strength , 1> money 2> dravya [items ] 3> physical seva 4> knowledge ... and accordingly try to do seva for three days ..
• IF not atleast do japa of rayaru at home for three days ...
• BUT do it with most sincerety , it will take you many steps ahead in the spiritual jpurney , you will never be the same man/person again ...
• WHY so much stress , because . RAYAR seva is not for those whom fortunes evade , the very attempt to do seva is gateway to a GREAT FORTUNE coming your way
• ARE WE EXAGERRATING IT ? ARE WE OVERDOING something ?
• FOR THIS APAROXA JNANI DASARU says " pusi alla nana matu ! enna ane enna bimba ane ! " that what I say is not a lie , TAKE my promise ,. PROMISE OF BIMBA !
• there cannot be any better statement than this in entire philososphical lieterature .. that DASARU is giving the vaasta of his BIMBA which he is seeing ... he says LORD is testimony to it , which lORD , the lORD that is residing in his heart .. that lord that is regulating HIM .. so in away these are the words said by LORD HIMSELF with guarantee
• RKG , one can donate , one can sit at home and do japa , one can do aradhana by doing alankara to rayar photo , doing pooja and japa and then giving for bramhana bhojana .. .... one give hastodaka during the ARADHANA
• one can do NUTN VASTRA seva to RAYARU remotely .. one can do gandha seva pushpa seva ... but BRAMAHANA santarpana is best seva ..
• try to complete 1000 2000 3000 5000 10000 100000 recitals as per capacity in these three days ... it will be booster effect
• APPANACHARYA stotra upadesha if there then rayar ashtakshara upadesha is automatically there
• RAYARU doesnt see which mantra you are reciting ..he sees with what zeal you are doing seva , even pujyaya stotra will give excellent results ...
• rayaru is not done avahana ,, its vasudeva sankarshan rupa of narayana .. which is fed
• rs that is even better starting early ,. but one must do it with nishtha ... like i said give exclusivity to event .. it will give more phala
• IF one understands importance of RAYARU in ones life , he will do it as best available day in his life in a year ... RAYARU will be extra lineant in giving away his punya in these three days ... so its punya bonanaza time of the year .. just grab your share ... ONE WHO has not yet got insipiration , what can we say " MANDA BHAGYARIGE dorayadu ivara seva "
• WHy does DASARU resort to giving PROMISE of his conscience and BIMBA ,... what can be the import of such forceful PLEA ?
• because While listening to RAYR mahima , it seems all so simple , that a doubt always crops up that " with as little efforts CAN such MIRACULOUS RESULTS be had ? "
• WHile someone recites RAYAR mahima , its as if we all are in some fantasy land ... or the feeling is as if someone is weaving a make believe world ... once the discourse ends .. people would get faith disturbing mood that IS IT REALLY POSSIBLE ? CAN I REALLY GET THIS ? or is it for just CHOSEN FEW ? OR IS IT ONLY FOR THE PIOUS , I am not one ? should i be actually doing it ?
• BUT then anything done with doubt does not yeild results ... Half of the time while reciting stotra or dhyana .. or japa .. one will be fighting these doubts ...
• SO to remove such doubts .. appanacharya's stotra too has at regular intervals the 'ASSURANCE " do not DOUBT ... WITH respect to RAYARU there seems to be extraordinary assurance from all the SAINTS .. try it dear YOU WILL NEVER BE DISSAPPOINTED ./... nambi kettavar illa "
• SO before starting if one spends some time in contemplating these assurances ... his mind will be crystal clear .. and then start with crystal clear mind the seva ... YOU WILL NEVER BE THE SAME MAN AGAIN
• There is no one [ who is good soul ] who has not experienced the astounding results ... everyone has a tale to narrate .. a gaining experience only ...
• As normal people run towards RAYARU for their mitigation of sansaara taapa .. APAROXI's too run to RAYARu to enehance their spiritual agenda .... AND it is they who praise him for that unexplained result that they attain , that MAKES THEM see a great fortune in his blessings .... A times even the great saints are surprised AS TO WHAT in THEM COULD HAVE POSSIBLY TRIGGERED SUCH A extraordinary result for just a simple seva .... IF IT IS THE MAGNANIMOUS PESONALITY OF RAYARU that is giving multitude effect for a simple seva ... THEN WHAT was it that caused as to GO for such simple effort giving multitude effect .... NOTHING BUT GOOD FORTUNE can explain this ... it is pure BHAGYA to serve RAYARU ... OH LORD wherver we are born whatver we are born as , if only we have this simple inspiration to do RAYAR seva knwoingly or unknowingly ... that is enough .... IT WILL TAKE US THROUGH !
• IS RAYARU only in MANTRALAYAM ... ? RAYARU is in asampragnyat samadhi . a person who does not have any connection with outer world is said to be in asampragnyat samadhi .. then how rayaru is knwoing we are doing his seva , when he has no coneection with outer world ? .. how can we say even the brundavan that we have in bangalore delhi USA etc .. will give effect ... one can understand RAYARU is sitting in mantralayam , since he is doing tapasya there it can have briliant sannidhi and give result , but how a Mrittika brundavana would give ? SHOULD I BELIEVE ALL THIS .. ? is it not just a moodh bhakti ?
• jupiter in vimasmasa should be strong
• RAYARU is in asampragnyat samadhi ... BUT then there is vishesha VAYU AVESHA ,, it is VAYUDEVA who resides everywhere , know everything and relates everything to the jeevas ... so RAYARU when a mrittika brundavana is erected , it is THIS VAYUAVESHA which installs itself everwhere and gives us the results , results of teh RAYARU's punya .. RAYARU also knows about all the events inside BY the grace of VAYUDEVA ... though he is unattached about it .. but is very dayalu to easily grant it and VAYUDEVA carries it to us .. chages our LIFE forever .. SO ONE MUST BELIEVE that even mrittika brundavana too gives the results .. RAYARU can be everywhere ...only lesser fortunate will keep questioning about the MAHIMA of RAYARU , their misfortune does not allow them to do RAYAR seva ... LET us take the fortunate route .. keep aside all the whims fancies and doubts and preconcived notions . inabilities and obstructions and obstacles ... and proceed with single mind to do RAYAR SEVA with full faith and devotion ..
• when serving the test of RAYAR seva , the results are always foregone conclusion " PAPPU CANT FAIL bhala "
• shubha ratri .. ellarigu mangalvagali
• sanga vagali sadhu sanga vagali sangadinda LIng deha bhanga vagali
• Let there be satsanga ...let there satsanga of sadhu [ rayar devotees ] , let such sanga lead to linga deha bhanga

Poorvagraha

• we have seen three incident of poorvagraha .. 1. vihsu shanbag raised that there is a content in BSB .. chiraan said something which Vishnu Shanbhag construed as overriding the comment without going into details ... and acused of having no proper training katha and vaada ..... what was not understood was ... let me give example .. there is mention of a medicinal plant at the end of road leading to my house .... when such a description of medicinal plant is being given [ important for immediate cure of a disease ] , if Vishnu S says yes a similar plant can be found in indian ocean 2000 metres deep that is more potent ... chiraan which is more beneficial going to end of road OR INDIAN OCEAN and diving deep 2000 mts and then saying arey this is same as what is there near my house
• BSB is ocean .. to find tenets in it is like diving deep in ocean .. when something is complied and given ready to eat instead of savouring if we take diversion to ocean just to understand that it is same .. but after laborious effort what is right ..... is acusation of lack of katha vaada etc right ?
• 2> when a dictum is followed tooth and nail .. and is only resorted to then same parameters should be applied to all aspects of life ... liberties should not be taken ... In case of adhyayana the stress was on puritanical way that only study should be paramount as in olden days .. [ whereas argument was forwarded that in changed times some liberalisation has been done has stamp of tradition pontiffs ] sich stamp is totally considered ecstacy ... so the point was raised was the adhyayan done in same puritanical way .. as prescribed ... obviously the answer is no as changed time has no scope for personal seva ...... THIS was asked in direct manner as DID you do personal seva to attain status of adhyatru ..... the answer could ahve been yes or NO ... but the answer has been IT IS PERSONAL ATTACK
• 3> BRAMHA is JNANA POORNA .... that means his gnana in his mind is complete .... DURGA GIVES AGNANA TO BRAMHA FOR KSHANRDHA .... does DURGA cut off access to gnana in mind ANSWER YES ..........why DID BRAMHA HAVE HARI PREETI because he did dhyaan of HARI in kshanardha only ... IS DHYAANA done with GNANA .. answer yes .... now tell me WHEN GNANA IS CUT OFF BY DURGA in kshanardha ...(statement A -) SO NO GNANA ACCESS TO BRAMHA in mind in KSHANARDHA .....(statement B.) BRAMHA ACCESSES GNANA in kshanardha to do DHYANA in mind hence HARi preeti .... when told statemnet A and statement B is contradictory ... POORVAGRAHA says .. no there is no contradiction any lay man can say there is contradiction
• manana is a process which give rise to doubts .. who clears doubts .. an able guru .. where will one get IT ?
• then once doubts are settled there is scope for forgetting the lesson or non application of lesson learnt .. so for dhrudikarana nidhidhyasan is required .....now shravana requires a able guru [ not just any guru ] .. manana requires a an able guru [ who is capable of removing doubts ] .. nidhidhyasana requires an able guru .. else can shishya with manovyatha manoroga do nidhidhyasana .. who wll remove them [ an able guru , tatavadevata , again guru anugraha ]
• I do not see a single instance of independent adhyayana succeeding at every step an able guru is must .. an able guru responds what ? seva or just mere exercise of carrying a grantha in hand keeping it open for reference
• PAROKSHA means siddhi in every field known ... paroksha does not mean just know how whos who and whats what ... it is siddhi .... has anybody heard of siddhi being obtained by mere books ?
• does siddhi of vidya come by reading books or anugraha of vidyabhimani devata ?
• define siddhi ' this is a good question ...... while all were extraordinary archers ..in mahabharta , astra works pnly if one had siddhi ... what are reasons of astra siddhi ... while astra ,antras are known reciting them oes it give result ... ? so it should be siddha
• how it is siddha when given upadesha by a guru who has already attained siddhi of that astra
• while even i know pashupat astra mantra bramhastra mantra .. but my reciting it will it work ? no i have done adhyayana of these astras even if i do a crore time adhyayana of this astra i will not be able to use it
• why?
• i do not have siddhi .. similarly paroksha gyana is siddhi of all vidyas ..
• ji, Can you give an example that has relevance to adhyayana, for ex, We are reading BSB under a guru...what siddhi is needed here?
• VISHNU SHANBAG ... nobody denied the importance of jnana ... the shravan manana nidhidhyasan if a guru is not giving to his shishya he is NO GURU ... RAYARU is best GURU first thing he will do is give gyana to SHISHYA ... now gyana need not come through usual shravana ie listening to years of shastra patha .. rayaru can do it in seconds .. that is the conetention of post ..
• ji, Hope my objection is clear. How do you understand siddhi w.r.t. adhyayana. Btw, do our gurus say this is necessary and quote a pramANA for it? Also, what exactly do you think are they referring to?
• sanjeeva TATVODYOTA has multiple meanings .. all the meanings that are given if known and recollectible on finger tips to the LIKING OF RAYARU or MADHWACHARYA ... ability to recall and present all the tenets [ all the tenets that were sammat to author not tenets that we have understoood as final ] is siddhhi of that grantha
• if a particular meaning has been left and not learnt at all does bring displeasure of RAYARU or teekakaras .. we need to take another birth to learn them again .. HOW MANY BIRTHS LIKE by self adhyayana is it not easy tos a RAYARU teach ee all that is best to my capacity
• that is the point ... now you have put it across ... the understanding that I have understood whatever has been written by teekacharya and rayaru in their granthas to the fullest is itself ignorance
• look at guruguna stavana .. vadeedraru has said even great scholars prior to rayaru have not given all the meanings of tatvaprakashika ... what does that mean ....?
• recollection is NOT MEMORY SKILL .. IT IS SIDDHI OFFERED BY VIDHYABHIMANI DEVATA
• remember karna forgot mantras ... ARJUN FORGOT MANTRAS ... after KRISHNA paramdhaam
• if it were memory skills ...that would never have happened
• some recollect at instance some take lot of tie to recollect ... it is matter of siddhi
• rTRY jyotishya if you can recollect any sutras as soon as you see horoscope and interprete you will undertsand what is recolection
• vishnu when rayaru is teaching optially where will you go for shravana ? every shravan will look defectful
• manana becomes automatic affair
• so adhyayana is inner mode
• experience to knwo this
• shanmukha ., your statement is without pramaana and against pratyaxa
• siddhi has no link to janma siddhi comes by vidhyabhimani devata anugraha
• it can come in one birth or many ... depending upon seva of devata
• devat upasana
• devatas are srujya with aparoxa .... how will you reconcile that
• please define yogyata
• SUTRA BHASHYA TEEKA are not for manushyas .. VADIRAj statement is already given
• please define yogyata
• Acharya in ATantra sara has said bramha gayatri is for yogyata praapti ... what does he mean here .. what is this yogyata .. which is to be obtained to best of capacity ?
• yogyata is ability to do seva ... yaa does sadhan in smoke for ten kalpas .. that is his yogyata
• not all can do that
• ordinary manushya cannot sit for two minutes i smoke
• so his level of vidya siddhi and yama siddhi will be different
• both read same veda
• but its not adhyayana that diferentiates yogyata
• but siddhi by doing seva .. seva in abnormal conditions
• CAN WE SAY UNDERSTANDING OF VEDAS of YAMA and a manushya is same .. because both read same material same shravana
• if NOT WHAT is that YAMA KNOWS MORE
• in MAHABHARTA there is episode where on laxan shastra YUDHISTHIRA asks why ARJUN has so much travel .... KRISHNA explains DRAUPADI stops KRISHNA saying YUDHISTHIRA HAS NO YOGYATE for shravana of this LAXAN SHASTRA
• laxan shastra is known to all what is that KRSIHNA said as ARJUN having long Tummy as reason for travel this YUDHISTHIR did NOT knew ?
• shanukha what is syllabus for aparoxa
• please elaborate
• so syllabus is sarvamoola .. how many meanings does sarvamoola has .. is all that meanings your syllabus from truna to bramha
• VISHNU SAHASRA NAMA has 10000 meanings .. do you have any loukika guru who can give sharvana of all 10000 meanings
• or can you tell me if ypou have done shravan of vishnu sahaasra naam , you know 10000 meanings .. ie 100 meanings of vishwa
• please take another decade of adhyayana of VISHNUSAHSRA NAAM and come give me a shravana of 100 meaning of ord vishwa
• if you can do that I will accept that adhyayana gives jnana
• my capcity is i know hundred meanings of vishwa ... but there is no loukika guru I acn tell with authority who can give shravana of 100 meanings of vishwa
• tell me who will decide my capacity
• YOGYATA is defoned as HATA ... hata to know ... you dont have hata to know 100 meanings .. then you have no yogyate .. but if one has hata to know .he is eligible
• who gives such eligible soul gyana .. not adhyayana
• but RAYARU
• THAT IS WHERE YOU AHVE AGREED ... for many eligible souls RAYARU is NIYAT GURU thats why he is here ....
• RAYARU is not sitting here for giving desires.. he is here to be a NIYAT GURU ... we are screaming from TOP that RAYARU is NIYAT GURU HE KNOWS YOUR YOGAYATA
• So many good points have now come out ... please tell me if your yogyata is of knwoing 30 meanings of VISWA .. will you get it by adhyayana
• swadhyaya
• then what is manadanda for yogyata ... SUTRA BHASHYA has ananta artha .. SHESHA says each word he can understand only 100 meanings .. so SHESHAAVTARI shishya used to take moolrupa and undesrtand with 100 heads all the 00 meanings .. please read teekas carefully
• where is pramaana that automatically niyat guru will come without striving for
• withouit striving for niyat guru will one get one
• remember JAGANNATH dasaru episode .. he did vayu seva
• then rayaru seva .
• then vijayarayar seva
• and then he was directed to NIYAT GURU
• did NIYAT GURU AUTOMATICALLY
• please quote i will give rght interpretation for it also
• i have tatvaprakashika ]
• DO YOU MEAN TO SAY GREAT SRINIVAS acharya [ jagganatha dasru ]was not on right path so niayt guru did not come to him automatically
• SORRY GOPALA DASARU did RAYAR SEVA obtained GAYATRI SIDDHI ... and then VIJAYA DASARU came to tell he is abusing SIDDHI
• please get facts right
• MOXA also happens without fail at the end of kalpa whether you do sadhan aor not .. BUT DOES THAT MEAN MOXA comes automatically withoiut striving for it
• BIMBA APAROXa karana vijayadasaru CAME BY RAYAR SEVA please get the facts right
• BIMBA APAROXA comes by BIMBA MOORTY upadesha and that is given by ATMA GURU .. for this SEVA of RAYARU is necessary is pratyaxa siddha in out times .. dassaru themselves ahave agreed
• rayaru is avishta in all gurus that we do seva .. to give BIMBAAPROXA .. this is what all the great yatis have said
• WHAT PRECEDES AGAMAN OF NIYAT GURU kindly answer .. seva or anything else .. show me one case where one has niyat guru without doing iontense seva
• you are not answering my question .. AGREED upadesha of BIMBA is By niyat GURU what preced agaman of NIYAT GURU ?
• gyaana pakva means siddhi in paroksha ,... rayar seva gives this siddhi and then rayar arranges for niyat guru .. is pratyaxa siddha
• youhave gone back again ... mana gives doubts who clears these doubts to the level fo getting siddhi ?
• manana [ not mana ]
• please tell in clear terms did you understand the term siddhi ?
• does manana rectify doubts all by itself or GURU is required to rectify ?
• okay i will have to come one step down .. do you agree paroksha includes gyna of mantras etc ..
• mantra siddhi comes by manana or devata prasaad
• is mantra siddhi part of proksha gyaana or not ?
• matra siddhi we are speaking about comes only with mnatra gyana .. but even after hvaing mantra g=jnana .. can you guarantee mantra siddhi by adhyayana and manana
• paroksha can be had without matra siddhi ? please get your basics right you need more manan and adhyayana
• manan is not continuous adhyayana
• kindly understand the ter siddhi ..and how it is important for PAROKSHA ... paroksha gyana means sakal shashtra siddhi
• now you ask pramaana for it i will give
• manan is not just mere avalokan of shastra that is what i meant
• manana gives rise to doubts means there is apllication of tarka nyaya there in manana
• tarka nyaya can be applied only if you know which nyaya is used in the context ... out of infinite nyaya used by ACHARYA MADHWA ... if you do not know few properly .. how is you mana successful .// siddhi means knwoing all nyaya successfuly and its apllication
• SORRY PARISHARAMA SHOULD BE FOR OBTAINING GURU ANUGRAHA there is lot of difference in my sentence and yours
• swadhyaya does not give siddhi has been proved clearly with examples .. without siddhi there is no paroxa ... without paroxa no niyat guru will come ...
• to get siddhi more than swadhyaya you need guru anukampa .. that is had by seva ..
• more importantly not loukika guru seva but RAYAR seva
• ARJUN is savyasachi because he was practicing day night with both right and left hand / despite so much parishram swadhyaya ... practise of dhanurvidya ... he was not ready for AHABHAAT battle .so VEDVYASA gives him amantra through YUDHISTHIR to go to INDRAkeel parvat and take siddhi
• what he does SEVA of SHIVA
• why ARJUN does seva of RUDRA ... he could have studied and done swadhyaya .. it shoudl have happened .. why separately send him //// PLEASE EXPLAIN
• MAHABHARTA is there to understand vangmaya ... it is not astory
• APAROXA GYANA DOES NOT COME WITHOUT PAROXA SIDDHI ..
• the term siddhi i think has not yet been understood
• ther is inherent inability to understand then I am helpless
• BUT according to you only study is enough .. BUT here in ARJUNas case study was not enough he had to do seva .. exclusive seva ... isnt there a message
• then rudra appeared and gave pashupatastra ... now this pashupata atra mantra I know .. all bramhins know why does it not become siddha for us by study
• not even for ARJUN
• WHERE ARE WE SEPARATING ITS YOU WHO HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT exclsuive seva in physiscal form is not PARAMOUNT .. now if you have changed ypour stance debate is closed
• ARJUn is personification of shravan mana dhyaan .. ACHARYAs words not mine ...
• FRom his lIfe we know ... siddhi is more important than shravan manana dhyaan .. and for that physical seva of guru is PARAMOUNT
• ARJUn was best example of shravana manana dhyaan of shastras .... even AFTER GETTING GEETA FROM HARI HIMSELF ... he could not understand right meaning
• HE had to do MADHWACHARYA SEVA .. as bull to know exact eaning of GEETA
• he did PHYSICAL SEVA OF CARRYNG SARVAOOLA ON BACK
• is there any doubt left
• HARE shrinivasa
• yes
• VAADIRAJARU had ruju avesha is what we can conclude ..second is VADIRAAJARU never showed he is a great devata or so .. he behaved as normal manushya ,,, so he prayed his GURU VAYU .. AVADIRAJARu had great bhakti of vayu is known through all his works and stuti ... the vyakhya of vayustuti is just mind boggling
• BUt it upholds the importance of vayustuti in every madhwas life .. you can get anything everything under sky with this
• the word siddhi that I am stressing comes only by vayustuti
• but beauty is after doing this vayustuti invariably one grind of rayar seva becomes mandatory ... then when we conclude in life if siddhi has to come by rayar seva then why do vayustuti .. the rayaru stops responding
• viju bhai secrets aisa open forum kaise deneko mangta
• VAYUSTUTI is greatest boon to MADHWAS
• if one does not do VAYUSTUTI he will not know anything
• I used to do vayustuti even before upanayana ... there were no results then .. everyone in the family dynasty knew i was doin vayustuti ... on the day of upanayana the entire phala of vayustuti backlog came in an instance ... THIS EVERYONE NOTICED ... a person who was unknown to us
• he was 70 years bramhana ... was walking by .. he saw me a new vatu .. he came inside and pinched my two cheeks [ boogly woogly woosh
• and then said i felt like doing this .. and he did sashtang namaskaara
• so VAYUDEVA is very dayaallu ... he did not say .,, ai adham manushya bina adhikaar ke yeh kya kar raha hai .. instead he created bank balance and gave me ... in one single go .. that energy could be felt ....
• VAYUSTUTI is miracle potion
• I told yesterday only koshish karo pyarey
• I am not capable of describing the effects of VAYUSTUTI it is just mind boggling ..it is aquaregia for all karmas
• FOR ALL NEW ENTRANTS I suggest only one thing vayustuti .. and it will lead to rayar seva and jnana will be automatic phenomenon ... experience to beleive this is no fantasy
• there is vayustuti by dasarus in prakruta bhasha too i will post it in blog .. one can do that
• see all dasa maharaj what did they do .. when somebody is in trouble /// they wrote small padya stotra in kannada and it did solve problems like mantras would do
• so dasra kruta stotras are very poerful
• where is questions and answers
• if we go by jagannatha dasarus words all words are mantras .. for one who has known this hari sarvaottam avyujeevottama ..
• what converts simples words into mantras should definitely be a mantra in itself isnt it ?
• i think recorded version of hari vayustuti is there on kannaaudio
• http://www.kannadaaudio.com/Songs/Devotional/ShriHariVayuStuti-SriVidyabhushana/VayuStuti.ram
• every word has adhidevata so it becomes mantra
• when one knows them
• ie the adhidevata of each word ..letter
• as i amwriting this entire hari nirmalya fell on me
• nirmalya terrtha pushpa rayar padodaka .. everything
• I dont think anybody would get to hear vayustuti anywhere except at vayu temples in madhwa region and that too at 8 am or so
• viju don phir break dance ko chala gaya kya
• no there is no rule of closing ears even with vedic mantras
• because when it comes to shravan adhikaara for women .. it is said that the adhyaapak should keep the adhikaari before hi and with a nimitta to teach him women can also sit by and learn
• now in such occasions mantras and some other sutras are uttered but that does not deter women from knwoing them
• no there is no rule that one should not hear .. one should not do adhyayana of the vedic mantras
• if hearing ban were there .. then in TEMPLES pooj is done with suktas .. and yejamana is couple who sit .. if nay rule were there women folks would have been asked to go out
• there is no such incident .. similarly in yagnya king and queen sit .. yagnya is done with veda mantras
• now sitting queen would not act deaf to veda mantras ..
• but that does not mean that you put a cd and keep hearing it
• that becomes adhyayana
• apna guest appearance hrishikesh bhayya bhi nahi dikhayi de rahe hai
• cameo Hariprasaad is expected
• best actor in silent role HARIPRASAAD ALUR
• all successful actors after shot go to their personal makeup van .. only extras like us stay on set
• yes ordinary among extras
• extrallu vesevallu extrale
• i think a new thread should be ther for hv stuti .. this way it is not good VAYU is jeevottam
• see i have not yet started any lessons to non dwija or women because .. once mental prep is achieved .. there are so ay sadhnas given for the that it will ecome difciult to find time ... but those sadhanas cannot bring good if complete preparationis not there
• adhika masa is coming there are many sadhana which can be done in this ..
• cameos are played by superstars to make a boring picture into hit ...
• guest appearances are mae by ex superstars to enhanec the value of the role even the small ...
• gachchan saugandhi...... is alltime favourite
• 48 days
• keshav beech beech mein item dance leke ayega ....kamal ki comedy to hai hi ....bus ek lalita pawar ki kami hai
• arey bhayya i a negative character always asking questions like brmh arakshas
• I told you na I a rakshas
• okay half hour break
• once in a blue moon bazigar hit ho jata hai
• in mutts you will find vauyututi punashcharana homa ...that includes udyaapana
• sat tark mean good logic how alert ?
• good evening
• yes
• santanik loka
• there is clear mentio that VAYUDEVA does ling bhanga of NS by Hunkaara
• in bhuvan vinyasa ... after vajrabhumi there is DURGA BHU And Sri bhaga ... Andhatamas ghanodaka are all part of durga bhaga .. where tamoyogyas get release ....then SRI bhaaga is considered vaikuntha bhaaga .. now what about bhu bhaaga .. here santaanika loka exists .. there is swarga bhu and naraka here for nitya samsaris ..
• yes please ask vasan vs
• sukha dukh mishra .. nitya samsaaris are of three types ... one who keep circling from swarga and bhu ..these get sukha followed by dukha .. one who always remain on bhu sukh dukha simulataneously ...and third who keep circling between bhu and naraka
• nakha stuti .. 1-41, shloka 41 - gachhan [ 108 ] - 1 shloka 1-41 nakha stuti ... 1 punahcharana
• not after saligrama pooja , you must do while saligraama pooja , after you finish snana and pushparchan of saligrama , take hanuman vigraha keep saligrama , do sankalpa anganyasa kar nyasa .. give it snana with nakhastuti shloka 1 -41 .. and then archana with shloka 41 - gachchan .. [ 108] -1 and 1-41 .. and then give dhoop deepa naivedya to saligrama and hanuman .. and rest .. it will give infinite phala
• udyapana can be done at t nagar .. but daily tarpana mut alo be given
• why will you be in asuchi .. ?
• if you have habit of drying a madi vastra daily ..then wearing it is madi .. a silk will stay in madi for 15 days ... but only requirement is you must reach it with wet cloths .. this way you can complete ..breaking in between is not good ...
• okay
• ye insadhana pages sure
• the first shloka peedha parihaar
• yes
• it should be done immediately ..

Guru Seve

• Some important points to be noted in the rayar mhaima gaana by vadeendraru is even though Teekacharya has written commentarries ... MANY scholars still interpreted certain tenets wrongly and there were allegations too that it may contain some defects .. NOW it is of general experience that we take scholars on face value .. such and such scholar said so .. Books translations are mainly scholars view point .. SOme attemt NAIVELY to interprete a vedic sentence all by themselves .. and try to present meanings .. all thee leads to misinterpretation and wrong knwoledge .. sometimes not acceptable to original author as well ...
• It is only with the help of RAYARU one can cleanly disect such defcetive occurences and not by self efforts
• three beautiful facts have come to highlight .. one ... VADEENDRA TEERTHA IS NO SMALL SCHOLAR just look at the description he has resorted it so difficult to unfurl and yet so easy to understand
• BUt even VADEENDRA teertharu has raised his hands when it comes to doing hard adhyayana he say why do all this grind when I can have an easy way ... NOW this cannot be brushed aside as something written out of affection GYANIS YATIS DONT LIE
• NOW VADEENDARU might have said so in ecstasy lets believe it The vyakhyan karas DHERENDRA TEERTHA and VASUDHENDRA teertharu have gone one step ahead and said without RAYARU no relief
• now this cannot be overimagination
• all these are celebrated yatis
• second point is ... RAYARU gives knwoledge to one who takes shelter in him [sharanagat ]
• so those who allege by bending ones back one will get nothing or is not an optimum way of getting knwoledge ,., it is aptly and amply shown that it is optimum method of gaining knowledge
• there > RAYARU when he gets happy like a king can make you a SCHOLAR who would know SECRETS [ deep ocean secrets of MAdhva shastra ]
• all this he gives as GIFT
• I THINK THIS NOBODY CAN EVEN IMAGINE CAN HAPPEN .. all doubting TOMS CAN GO THROUGH THE GRIND >>> WE ARE SURE AIMING FOR NECKLACE
• A good nature of maha satvik person is he becomes happy with smaller things
• my GOOD FORTUNE RAYARU IS MOST SATVIK EVER BORN ... BHAGAVT PRAISES HIM AS first among BHAKTA
• Now IF I am sincere WHAT ARE MY CHANCES OF NECKLACE [ DADA JACKPOT }
• i leave it for others to contribute
• See if contention that loukika guru is shreshta and even his sushrusha would give same phala and gyaana by ding adhyayana under him ... if this were correct ... THEN VADEENDRA would have been doing GURUGUNASTAVAN of UPENDRA TEERTHARU ... BT INSTEAD ,, VADEENDRARU is praising RAYARU who had already taken BRUNDAVANA even before he took PEETHA ... IS THERE A LOGIC HERE ?
• if at all brundavan and its yati had same sannidhi then VADEENDRARU should have DONE GURUGUNASTAVAN OF VYASARAYRAU OR VIJAYEENDRARU TEEKACHARYAU , but again HE chose only RAYARU ...
• AM I MISSING ANY LOGIC HERE ?
• IF ONLY MADHWACHARYA gives gyaana , as B C D claim .... THEN VADEENDRARU should have done another VAYUSTUTI INSTEAD OF RAYAR GAANA ... IS there anything to learn here ?
• for VADEENDRARU RAYARU is fifth generation YATI .. should it be any different than TEEKACHARYA VIJAYEENDRA VYASARAYA or UPENDRA teertharu .. if SO WHY ? is it to be thought or just a coincidence ? i THINK my reason is not enough to know this ANybody help ?
• once a scholar who was learning under a great scholar .. was observing me
• the great scholar was of the opinion that only adhyayana is of importance and all other activities are of gaining something or other desire and detrimental to the sadhan /// for the scholar sadhana means only adhyayana of grantha
• one day .. i along with my vidya guru .. happened to visit the scholar and his very great scholar teacher .. scholar was totally under influence of the teacher ... so was daily doing paryana of granthas
• so in the discussion it slipped fro my mouth I have to do japa ..
• Scholar immediately said DO SADHANA why this japa and alll .?
• MY teacher gave a shrewd look ... and said what do YOU MEAN ?
• then a discussion broke up with elderly scholar puitching in saying what this japa and alll ,.. sadhana madbeku ri ... adhyayana madabeku .. yeshtu saari parayana madiri sarvamoola grantha
• hari in normal course in pre rayaru era I would have agreed to your statement
• BUT RAYARU is special .. many stalwarts have said this demonstarted this .. the times have changed ... will be changing even more .. there will be no time shravana .. miseries will be too harsh ... so times up for such rigoruous routes .. so all greater yatis in rayaru have merged in him ... and all younger ones look upto him and have become sign boards leading to him ... THIS IS REALITY .. so only rayaru .. with this you get all purushartha and gyaana and vairgya and next steps .. remember all those who go to rayaru are no mean souls they all have done adhyayana in their past births all vedas might have been read by all of you in your previous births there is no necessity to repeat them .. you require DMA
• coming back to story .. there was debate .. with sarvamoolaparayan versus japa
• now what the scholar had poorvagraha was japa is only for mitigation of navagraha dosha this dosha etc
• BUt it was pointed out to him that JAPA is favourite kaalkshepa of those whose sadhan ahs completed ... he was taken aback
• so JAPA is more peorful sadhana ..
• is RAYAR JAPA a seva ?
• Now kalantara SCHOLAR git into a big trouble .. he stopped adhyayana for months
• when asked what happened .. he said prasaana manasu iddare adhyayana vidhyayana .. ee sansaar taap delli yelli ... where was the argument now ?
• then he asked SVALPA JATAKAVANNU NODI HELLI enu NANNA AVASTHE ..
• I said GRANTHA PARYANA MADI ... adu bittu beredu heli
• enadru abhisheka madabahuda .. enadru teertha yatre ... japa homa
• SO I suggested MANTRALAYA seva .. he achieved peace later
• person said only if manas is swastha all adhyayana can happen if not how
• how ca one do adhyayana in sansaar taapa
• he asked if I can look into jataka chakra and tell him what is wrong ?
• i said why not do paryaana of grantha .. he said excepot that I can do anything
• so I said mantralya seva ..
• So adhyayana is not possible with misry laden mind .. THAT IS WHAT VADEEDNRA TEERTHARU IS SAYING WHEN HE SAYS ROGADI upadravaat ASIDDHAKAYA alpamati
• BUT if prarabdha is full of misery then when to study ?
• so brushing aside the words of GREAT YATI and saying SARVAMOOLA PATHA will give gyaana enough to know everything to be eligible for MOKSHA is not aright argument
• it is laden with dosha .. of ahankara agyaana and alpanubhava
• If loukika guru could remove disease tandra kaam moha and still put one in right path then their argument will hold
• BUT this not to be seen in todays life .. and hence RAYARU
• EVEN VADEENDRARU says Though I have made a bold statement that I will tell RAYARU 's MAhima .. I am like a small tadpole jumped into ocean named RAYARU MAHIMA .. So my initial pratignya itself has gone for toss ... no one can fully describe RAYRU's mahima
• what taddpole can swim how much can it see ocen and how much can it explain
• so I am just an amoeba
• have no shape of mine yet venturing to give RAYARU mahima
• mera khud ka huliya theek nahi doosro ko kya sikhayon
• no i have placed this new thread only for discussion since there flow of rayar guna gaana will coninue later
• please do narrate
• i am waiting hari bhaiiaya
• yes these small issues do point to the fact that rayaru directly changes the mindset
• yes but for a person immersed in adhyayana it looks like superstition .. for those still more learned it seems like kaamya karma
• a man in adhyayana is nishkaam karmi and does not desire anything else but moksha but he is sure it comes through self efforts ie adhyayana
• I had learnt jyotishya under my father ..and later after my father i had a void .. so i went to all i knew .. after little pariksha of my jyotishya tidbits eveyone said they are not going to teach me
• Similarly I had a fad of taking mantras from yatis .. but believe none of the yatis gave me mantras
• while they would give it to students , office goers but when i would go they would look and say not now
• I went to all yatis in disguise ..
• with phate purane kapade unshaved after many days of punashcharana
• but my day never came
• FInally One yati asked me to come in wet clothes early in the morning and exatly sit while RAAM pooja was going on ..
• after the pooja he did abhisheka to me and asked do you take me as guru
• I said YES .. then he said .. then i will have to teach you ... then he said .. PRATYAXA ANUMAA AGAMA means of knwoledge ... and he stopped suddenly ..
• he took a deep breath and then looked me very sternly .. and said then smilingly said rest all you know .. you can GO
• So how do I do adhyayana ?
• Mera number kab ayega ?
• then i went to one uchhca bramhana and said you are my vidya guru .. teach me .. he taught me many secret things but when it came to bramha sutra and bhasya .. he said ivella nimage tilade ide
• this is very starnge incident in my life
• yes I had upadesha of the granthas in childhood by a great scholar .. but then i was six years old
• FROM then till today only RAYARU HAS TAUGHT ME
• MANY YEARS later I had a doubt .. I went to yati and asked him ... HE SAID I DONT KNOW >. while his sincerety and honesty was quiet surprising .. BUT HE SAID YOU WILL NOT GE ANSWE TO THIS if I DONT KNOW NOBODY KNOWS EITHER
• rashi
• SO its not that guru is hard to find .. BUT RAYARU is the mastermind for all he has blueprint for our sadhana ..
• kashyap we can discuss that in new thread aint it
• NOW This YATI I AM TALKING OF IS GREAT ASTROLOGER
• He even talks after seeing the nadi
• very gyaani .. asudha pandit .. and high sadaachara .. if one gets such answer what is the recourse ? RAYARU ...
• I think till now everyone has given rayar anugraha anubhava wrt loukika issues .. material issues .. i would love to hear from you all jnana issues too
• give me a break of ten minutes
• yes knowing chiraan is ignorant if first step to knowledge
• So what is best method of doing rayar seva ?
• see when for the first time one goes to raaru ... it will be mostly by hearsay ... a great yati all desires get fulfilled ... and one goes to mantralayam with a mindset LEts see idhar kya hota hai
• then according as yogyata of person , he gets a new experience
• the beauty with rayaru is he makes you do that ie follow madhwa sampradaya ..
• I was once reguarly going to jogeshwari mutt
• there one bhajan mandali was there which used to sing songs which would mean ALL ARE ONE
• and the archaka was quietly watching with hung head .. the amndali would sing for an hour
• and then disburse .. mostly aged people and very sad in disposition
• one day I had a very important meeting in malad .. and i ha one hour time left so i decided why not take one darshan of rayaru
• again the same madali and again same song .. all are one ..
• this time I got little wild .. first I took to task the archaka .. man how are you allowing this .. HE says if i say something then they will stop coming who will come to mutt
• He said complain to ,management ..now this archaka was no simple one he was very educated he had done sudha patha also ..
• managment ie manager and some others said why bother they will meet their fate ... what is our nimitta
• SO finally i asked the elderly man who was singing the song as to why he is singing this song
• he said he had leant them so he is reciting them ..
• I told him dear sir ... how many years you are doing this .. he said one year ... did you get any good result till date .. He said no
• my desires are yet to be fulfilled
• i told dear sir , if you stand before a KING and sing aye MAN you are odinary You are not KING .. look this man by your side he is alos king .. the one standing outside he is also king ..... WHAT SHOULD YOU EXPECT
• HE said KING WILL PUNISH ME
• BUT what was your motive to sing before the KING
• HE said to get rewarded
• THEN that means you will not get rewarded if you do something which your benfcatory does not LIke ..
• he said yes ..
• THEN I SAID LOOK RAYARU SAYS THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD AND HE IS VISHNU .. and HE GIVES RESULTS TO ONLY THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN HIM AND HIS KING VISHNU
• he said oh achcha
• and DEar sir . YOU ARE SINGING F WHOLE YEAR >>> VISHNU IS NOT GOD HE IS ALSO GOD THAT FELLOW IS GOD THIS MAN IS GOD ALL RE GOD ALL IS ONE ,... how will you get result
• he said Oh AM I SINGING THAT
• I said yes . then he said nobody told me here for one year .. people shoudl tell NO .. why are bramhanas there to teach ... you all have deprived me of one year
• he alleged archaka
• archaka felt shocked
• Then he tirned to me said what shoudl we sing .. then ARCHAKA came into charge and said si leave it to me i will teach them ..
• from then on the ASURA MANDALI became nija bhajanmandali
• HOW this happened RAYARU's grace ?
• RAYARU teaches people right path !
• he doesnt leave anyone as orphan
• and then instantly in few days the old man got his desire ..
• RAYARU took one year long service though defective and gave him instant result by giving him right knowledge
• THAT WAS BECAUSE ARCHAKA ALSO BELONGED TO THE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO BELIEVED IN ADHYAYANA ONLY AS SADHAN MARGA so he was indifferent
• later this archaka happened to come to delhi with a group of people .. i was on honeymoon trip to shimla
• i happened to stay for a day in delhi so went visiting to mutt
• my wife insisted before going to himalayas .. we must complete tritiya vrat
• but archaka at delhi mutt became wild how can one do vrats niyamas in mutt a short notice
• the manager of mutt was one whom i had donated books while he was studying .. he remebered me i did not ..
• he immediately asked archaka to arrange even if it short notice .. this visting boy from mumbai recognised me and gave a hearty meals in the alankara pankti .. and was again and again warning archak to do things properly ..
• next day was ganesh chaturthi .. my wife insisted on going to mathure .. on the way taxi fellow took us to tak mahal .. and what a prarabdha .. just as looking taj maha moon arise by the side and my wife said what a beautuflu moon ,.. I said chaturthi moon definitely i will have apavada this year
• and we hurried to mathura to have krishna darshan ..and recited the parihaar mantra ...
• that year went with full of allegations
• but no collateral damage
• so moral of the story is people change with time
• rayru changes them
• best way to do rayar seva is MAHIMA GAANA know his greatness and sing about it ... instant results will come
• BHAJATAAM KALPAVRUKSHAYA NAMATAAM KAAMDHENAVE
• this KALPAVRUKSHA also gives gyana as bonus
• BHOOKE KO KHANA PEHLE GYAAN BAAD MEIN .. GYAAN JAROOR MILEGA LEKIN SWEET DISH MEIN
• aisa sweet dish ki usme bas KHO JAYE
• phir master duniya ki khitpit ko ek bilang choti kardo ..
• aur phir sweet dsh khane ka
• ek bilang aur choti ur misery ka patloon
• aur sweet disha kahyo phir kahoge yeh kya patloon kahan .. hum toh bhaiyya vaiagya ke langot me hi mast hain ab janee do na kahe ki duniyadaari aur kahe ka lafda
• thats how rayaru seva works
• bhayya sabke ghar me rayaru set ho jayen ...!
• shubha ratri
• proof of the pudding is in eating ...[ sanjaava bhaiyya take topic which you have not yet done adhyayan ... do rayar seva in the form of japa , gaana [ songs ] , namaskaara seva ... and see if you get gyaana of that topic prior to adhyayana ... the matter is clear .. if not ... if you ahve to read and only learn it ... then perhaps this type of seva is not for you ! if there is real jignyasa in knowing whether what VADEENDRARU is proposing is right or not .. or just as sone has put it as worth ignoring .... then one must undertake the pain to verify .. this way discussing for lengthy hours will not bring any conclusion ..... BUT REMEMBER VIJAYDASARU GAVE A FOOL GYANA BY PLACING HIS PALM ON HIM ... JUST TO SHOW A ADHYAYAN PRIYA SCHOLAR THAT GYAANA CAN BE HAD IN EASIER WAYS TOO >< WHAT CANNOT BE HAD IS GURUANUGRAHA
• second most important point that you have missed in your adhyayana [ perhaps you have not done adhyayana of how a bramhacharya ashram is started ] .. is to get guruupadesha .. one goes to guru with samit in hands [ iam sure you ahve not gone to your guru with smait in hand ] ... and then follows personal seva to guru .. guru does not put you on upadesha class from day one .,. after many days guruseva ., personal seva [ how please see smriti granthas .. sorry do adhyayana of smrite granthas under able guru ] ....then guru decides the course that has to be taken to teach the shshya according to his yogyata some learn in days some in months some in years ... some decades .....there are examples in smriti where some shishyas leave gurukul but some are not allowed to leave
• guru seva precedes adhyayana is known ony if one has done guru seva personally .. have you brought water in gurus house have you collected bhiksha for a guru on any given day ... please let me know ?
• if you have not been part of tis culture then I am sory to say your adhyayana is not out of prasanna guru mukha upadesha
• studying vedas and veda sammat granthas without knowledge of nirukta shikhsa chandas vyakarana kalpa jyotishya .. is like blind people trying to figure out elephant . [ these are not my words .. if you have done adhyayana you must have known this ]
• kindly show me one loukik guru who is currently teaching you all six vedangas all the while teaching vedas
• If you have the jignyasa to know truth and follow truth kindly ask your loukik GURU .. does he know it
• ji, It is our traditional practice of vandana that our gurus compose stotraas on their gurus. It is not "pradarshana" because they have really benefitted from such gnanis. But, your theory of exclusion is not in anyone's mind. If at all one can understand our tatvavada by placing his hand, Sri Vijayadasaru himself would not never adored Sri Tikarayaru in his devaranamas and such things only There are many such examples. Guru Anugraha is a precious thing and one has to make oneself eligible for that.
• if not how has he ventured into VEDIK VANGMAYA .. if at all ventured .. if at all he has allowed you to study directky without taking seva frm you ... THEN I AM SORRY TO SAY YOU HAVE LEARNT IN A FIVE STAR GURUKUL just like modern plush educational institutes ..
• ji, let us respect the post we just received from
• OH getting now SHOWING REALITY HAS BECOME PERSONAL
• why ?
• pseudo adhyayan mode you are in taking something which is beneficial to in shastras and leaving others is being hypocratic .. YOU KNOW WHAT THE VERACITY TO ARGUE DESPITE GREATS HAVING SHOWN PATH just because YOU HAVE THE PSEUDO FEELING THAT YOU HAVE UNDESRTOOD BY ADHYAYAN THAT VEDAS SAY ADHYAYAN is only marga ,, tantamounts to being arrogant .... IN YOUR FAVOUR WHAT HAVE YOU SHOWN IN [[ NANYA PANTHA ... } purushsukta vachan ... my dear the words are saying there is no alternative to JNANA .. not adhyayana .... so much is misinterpretation ... and JNANA IS GOT BY GURU SEVA is our argument ... now tell me how can you brush aside the words of YATIS as errand ... isnt it wrong .. NOW SHOWING THIS IS IT GETTING PERSONAL
• There is nothing personal in my comments ... WHAT is reality is sometimes if not shown seems like acceptance of LOUKIKA WAY
• NOw if there is jignyasa you can answer my questions as to HOW YOU HAVE DONE ADHYAYANA FIVE STAR WAY OR VEDIC WAY AS WRITTEN IN SMRITIS ?
• June 13, 2012 at 12:19pm
• PEOPLE ADVOCATING ADHYAYANA [ not just sanjeeva i dont blame them they are prtirupas of the system .. i am infcat indebted to kk and sanjeeva for raking up these issues ... if not discussed here where it will be .. and the zeal with which sanjeeva and shanmukha defend their stance gives cope to go deeper in smritis and shastras to get right pramaana .. so it is appreciable ,... offense i dont take in their words ...if they feel offended by my words i apoligise ] .... BUT system today has taken liberties .. with the way a vidya is imparted
• with liberalises system .. with fast track teaching process .. and lack of systemetised learning [ there is no time either ] if one claims that self study or liberalised study has given right knowledge .. it is debatable
• NOW if the contention is ADHYAYANA is form of SEVA ..
• HERE there are two views ... ONE IF GURU LIKE [ mind the word LIKE ,as RAYARU is still their ] RAYARU is around and we are doing adhyayana under him ... his guidance will be perfect .. and he would be happy with showing the zeal to learn ..and our adhyayana will have guru prasaad ..
• June 13, 2012 at 12:26pm
• here too when we are doing adhyayana if GURU SAYS .. CHIRAAN kindly fetch me a water
• IF chiraan says guruji I am totally immersed in adhyayana .. please get some other student ....
• HERE THERE IS GURU WILL NOT BE HAPPY and adhyayana os waste exercise .... NOW IF HERE SOMEONE SAYS WHY GURU GAVE SHAAPA when ADHYAYANA is best form of GURU SEVA ?
• I think then chiraan is ALPAMATI
• GURU'S PERSONAL SEVA supercedes ADHYAYANA is the contention of the thread ...
• NOW if in the above example .. if GURU's asking a glass of water is ignored , saying Adhyayana is better seva and I am in this mode GURU SHOULD UNDERSTAND perhaps GURU UNDERSTANDS and is testing is VIPAEETA GYANA
• When the foundation is Madhwa satsang then how can this be so disturbing to you if people have thoughts that differ from yours. You seem like an intelligent person and learning to agree to disagree is a requirement for intelligent debate.
• GURU in many such cases have shown that THERE IS NOTHING LOST BY MOMENTARY LAPSE OF ADHYAYANA this GURU CAN GIVE BY HIS [ ANANYA SHAKTI also ] but giving a glass of water ... TATKAAL guru ajnya paalan .. is paramount ....
• I think this was our contention ...
• SOME MOST INTELLIGENT STUDENTS go one step farther ...THEY ALWAYS are in ever attentive mode to look after GURU's needs and spend most of their time just attending to GURU ..,they are not bothered about how adhyayana is lost or how time has been wasted ... IF UNDER ABLE GURU such people always excel in ALL FIELDS .. somehow they get all the KNOWLEDGE AUTOMATICALLY by GURU KRUPA .... this is pratyaxa SIDDHA
• NOW OUR OWN MADHWACHARYA NEVER DID ADHYAYANA ... he said HE KNEW ALLL
• instead HE SPENT TIME IN ANANTESHWAR TEMPLE DOING NARAYAN SEVA
• MADWACHARYA DID NOT TAKE A BOOK and sit before ANANTESHWAR
• any comments
• The definition of ADHYAYANA as SEVA is limited only under GURU' able guidance ... WHEN LOUKIK GURU HIMSELF is not capable of imparting right knowledge as he is TOTAL zero in vedanga or just PASS commodity .. how come adhyayan under such guidance becaome a GURU SEVA OF RAYARU ?
• HARI that is point being missed totally here .. but I think KK differs .. what Kk has proposed is even after GURU SEVA adhyayan becomes part and parcel of anugraha ...
• HERE I WOULD have AGREED WITH KK prior to GURU RAYARU's advent .. BUT NOT AFTER ,, because a beautiful after effect of RAYAR SEVA ,, is sudden understanding of UNKNOWN THINGS WITHOUT HAVING EVER KNWON THEM THROUGH STUDY OR PRATAYAXA ... so when such a facility is available KK should take advantage is our contention ..
• GNANA is not necessarily throuh rote lEARNING from books
• IF WE SEE DHIYO YO NAH PRACHODAYAAT
• how gayatri can give prachodana to knowledge VISHNU rupas .. it is not saying prachodan through adhyayan .. gayatri is madatroy .. what it makes so easy for adhyayana
• so japa is also a means of pragnya
• Japa is RAYR SEVA .. it is uttam seva ..
• SO RAYAR SEVA is unique because it cuts short the delay between reading [ or listening ] and understanding a concept .... THIS IS POSSIBLE ... sanjeeva and shanmukha are denying this possibility so I insist why not give it a try ?
• exactly hari , if people could recall I always start this point in this way only RAYARU is available right here amongsta us .. HE IS UTTAMA guru LOUKIKA guru is not he gives gyana
• viju that is not proper
• you must behave satvikally viju .. its not necessary that our stance sould be always accepted by others peopl are entitle to opinions .. and opinions change with experience and not vaada
• BUT HARI what is the main contention of the debate here is ..... many have perhaps not catching the underlying dhrudha mata of others regarding rayaru ... that is RAYARU is a YATI .. ther are YATIS in all other paramparas ... ALL YATIs attain BRUNDAVANA .. from BRUNDAVA all these have equal POWER and acapacity to BLESS THE DEVOTEE .. RAYARU though present in BRUNDAVANA is no exception why single out
• IT is THIS underlying THOUGHT PROCESS THAT IS BEING CONSTANTLY debated
• WHY RAYARU .. can not RAGHTTAM TEERTHARU in his brundavan grant me jnana if I DO SEVA there
• CAN NOT I DO SEVA IN MALKHEDA and get KNOWLEDGE ... why force RAYAR seva on me
• SO I will DO SWADHYAYA
• this is the actual debate here
• WHY ONLY RAYARU SEVA shoudl give JNANA .. why not SEVA of other yati ... is other YATI LESS? or WHY YATI why NOT SWADHYAYA .. MADHWACHARYA SAYS SWADHYAYA IS many times better than japa dhyaana ...
• SO by raising Such questions .. what is consequence .. !> Importance of RAYARU being here among us is seen as no BIG DEAL [ or may be only for desires and miracles not in real sadhan point of view ] 2 > it equates presence of present day yati as same as RAYARU being present 3> may be rayaru is in dhyaana so what is technical presence here 4> evn if he is present why NOT OTHER BRUNDAVAN SHOUDL GIVE RESULT .. TEEKARAYARU is higher in TARTAMYA to RAYARU so his brundavan should give more phala ... 5> I dont want as big a phala as RAYARU gives but my sincerety and bhakti is in satyasandharu .. so does that mean i will get nothing there
• SO appanacharya has answered all these questions .. he has made some sweeping statements in his rayar stotra which can go against pramaanas ... yet vyakhyankaaras have made reconciliation of all such doubts with praamanas
• especially KAMALANATHO PRASADODAAYAAT .. says that RAYARU can give MOXA
• because what is kamlanaath prasaad
• HARI PRASAAD is moxa .. it can not be a sweet from banarasidas and company
• NOW LORD IS KNOWN AS MUKUNDA .. one who bestows moxa .. an no one else has this power .. so how APPANACHARYA went to such an extent as writing kamalaanatho prasadodaayat
• so many a scholars debate .. this is a ecstacy and emotional outburst it cannot be truth
• see if we go by just words then like previous debates it becomes unending .. wheher a jeeva can bestow a moxa to other jeeva
• BUT remember what do we resort to .. 1. HAYAGREEVA STAMP 2> VAYU AVESHA 3> NARSIMHA AVATARA episode where PRAHALAAD is given boon to bring people along with him 4> DASARA krutis 5 > acharana of great YATIs .. 6 > expeirience of many a sadhakas ..
• with scholars as long as scholar refuses to accept RAYARU as special and only as a jeeva .. he can always say show me exception pramaana that jeeva can give moxa .. since there is no exception nowhere it is mentioned ..so this appanachaya kruti is ecstasy it is unacceptable
• and it is unending
• but if scholars accept that thee is VAYU AVESHA
• VAYU can take jeeva to moxa .. and there NARHARI AGNYA
• in the form of boon to prahlaada [ bhagavat ] ... the perception becomes different
• similarly in teaching .. ie adhyaapan .. DOES RAYAU TEACH
• gyanam putralabho bhavetdhruvam
• how gyanam ... deepa sanyojanaat jnanam putralabho bhavetdhruvam
• which type of jnana .. permanent jnana .... now we all know adhyayana does not give permanent gnana
• it is laden with sanshaya vipareet gyana .. anyathajnana .. .. so how come just deepa sanyojana gives jnana ...
• scholars will not agree
• except adhyayana there can be no other mode of learning this is again a atishayokti .. of some one in excited mode of affection
• what is the link between deepa sanyojana and jnana .. if that were so easy i would light a lakh deepas and will i become jnani ?
• now first one must light lakh deepa with devotion to RAYARU and then ask this question
• SO JNANA is got by RAYAR SEVA DEEPA SEVA .. how RAYARU TEACHES ... he is good adhyaapan ...
• see when you know how to play international cricket .. and still when you are struggling with bowl you take expert advise from a expert retired world record holder , what he does , does he give you three year coaching class ?
• he will take five minutes and turn you into a record holder HOW .... one needs to experience ?
• VISHNU BHAYYA do you think your understanding of guru is better than appanacharya through your bhashya reading
• is it better than VADEEDNRA TEERTHARU
• or you are under the impression that vadeendra teertharu has not read BSB
• is he over riding BSB and giving statements in ecstasy
• please comment
• BHASHYA is bahuartha garbhita ... what is being said by appanacharya and vadeendra teertha is supported by bhashya teekas .. only thing is alpamati like chiraan cannot understand them .. directly from BSB
• BUT vishnnu bhayya what you are putting akshepa is whatever you have understood through your reading of BSB and teakas is final understanding and there cannot be anything else beyod that understanding is really surprising !!
• So much So that you say others yatis are only talking in emotions you are studying in non emotional way and hence your alpamati has understood everything .....
• isnt it overstimations of self understanding ? this is what we are criticising all through the evening
• coming back ... RAYARU CAN TEACH is known .. this teaching is direct is knwon by dasaru ...... anatarangadallli nintu preriso anantadrishdwaraye
• BUT what makes him special is kamalanatho prasadodayaat
• NOW WHY DOES JEEVA come into samsaara what is the purpose
• his purpose is moxa .. kamalanath prasaad
• so all the aparoxa gyaanis .. they have struggle hard to get moxa as dictum is one must try hard like bringing a wicked son under control .. to get the attention of LORD to get moxa
• this is really hard
• so even AParoxis are saying ... YES RAYARU has done a great upakaara on all us he has made HARI to change / bend his rule a little and said okay whoever RAYARU says he will get moxa .. bolo kisko chalna ... isko isko whoeer he points NARSIMHA IS GOING TO OPEN DOORS OF VAIKUNTHA [ I AM NOT SAYING ABHAGAVAT IS SAYING }
• so all even aparoxi is praying worshipping RAYARU saying .... I will come please take me ... please recommend me /... why this wrsip
• worship
• can we worship anybody ?
• for that VADEEDNRA TEERTHARU is giving the qualities of RAYARU .. look he is no ordinary mortal ... he is extraordinary his behaviour is extraordinary , his ways are extraordinary , he is above alll .[ because vayu is tere in him ] he doesnt have defects .. so nothing wrong in worshipping him above all he is very kind hearted .. he doesnt get elated or proud see even elders are prasing me ... nor he gets hard on youngsters saying dekha mere paas hi aya naaa
• He just becomes happy by smaller bhajan namaskaara with devotion ... he makes you eligible .. and he takes you to moxa .... simple . such simple way available ... vadeendra teertharu is saying dasari is saying ... why worry
• so this kamlanat prasaad is not AVAILABLE WITH ANY OTHER YATI
• granting MOXA by the grace of boon of nARHARI presence of VAYU is exception that RAYARU is made of
• now are we talking in air .. just imagination ..
• we have YATIs we have our elders we have devatas who have treaded this path ...so ours is not just a ecsaty talk .. its proven path ....
• today i saw a post in madhwas which is like this "Greatness of Hari Vayustuti as told by Shri Vadirajaru :
• Now here too the great yati VAADIRAJARU is saying he learnt about sarvamoola by VAYUSTUTI parayana ... isnt that guru seva
• See vishnu bhayya there is more to what you understand ... all that i have said can still be found in all vangmaya .. only it requires manthan
• now all these manthan for you to do will take many years .. here many yatis have simplified it and given it to us ... which is better option to unearth ourselves aftre years that what yati has said is here in this very verse i coud not understand .. or just follow a greater yati and reap fruits .. kindly make a choice
• i will give you one example ...vihnu bhaiiyya please look into it .. the shastra says prarabdha cannot be avoided it should experienced without fail there is no escape
• in one case a jeeva calculated that he has prarabdha left for which he has to take 50 births
• he became impatient he said fifty births I cannot wait for that long .. i want moxa immediately .. so he went asked HARI .. that please give some exemption ...
• what HARI did .. he gave him 50 rupas in one single go and all fifty rupas in one instant finished prarabdha .. and in short time ie time equalt to one birth he attained moxa [ amukta vaikuntha ]
• see HARI IS DAYAALu //// so some exceptions are there .. in terms of quick gyaana and moxa sadhan in this ghora kali RAYARU is exception By the grace of LORD there is pramaana
• please give your inputs and comments all readers
• ten minutes break
• Shuchi there is one case in mantralayam he is not a madhwa ..but had been doing seva for more than twelve years he used to reside in matralayam and do seva .. but he never got his desire .... finally after twleve years he came to ask a prashna to a astrologer ... an asked why is he anot getting desires fulfilled ? is twelve years seva not enough
• astrologer said another 100 years also you will not get ... he then left mantralayam
• this is where i was introduced to new concept caled shivapalit and vishnupalit horscopes
• loukika fulfillment there are many who have got loukika desires even though they were not muktiyogyas
• loukika desires come by poorvajanma punya .. durvas agiving duryodhan his desire
• how much that desire gives happiness is the yogyate of jeeva
• NOW coming back to grand question of HOW RAYARU TEACHES
• RAYRU can inspire our minds .. [ antarangadalli nintu preriso ]
• so what happens when he inspires your mind .... he raises a question in the mind ... WE ALL HAVE DEHABHIMANA MANOBHIMAANA TOO , we think we are thinking ... ah I have a question .... this squestion stays in your mind [ courtesy rayaru , he never allows the question to deviate from mind ]
• SO one thinks this question is troubling me .. ah he thinks think thinks ...
• in thinking ... many poosibility should ideally be thrown up ... our usual alpa reasoning capacity does not throw up so many possibilities of answers to the question
• again manoabhimaana makes us feel ah i am doing research
• see so many solutions .. what could be right ?
• rayaru places a stake [wheel in gambling den stops at one point ] at right answer ... and with all your pros and cons you know yes only this could be right ... y
• you feel you ahve become gyaani .. you place that new found knowledge among scholars you start asking learning ... it further confirms .. because this time rayaru gives answer through another gyaani .. [ whether gyaani knows or not he will give right answer ]
• now you are doubly sure ... yes I know this ..
• i know this .. sometime later somebody gives you abook you open it and say this is what I was thinking ... heaven man I was right ?
• BUT DEAR WHO GAVE THE ANSWER ?
• you do more seva .. more such manan happen if you are in niranatar seva .. nirantar gyaana pravaha flows .. where is time to waste
• in loukika adhyayana .. you have to read [ means take input from book to memory ] data acquisition time waste ... and then equip yourselves to do manan [ this is hard part one should be in good frame of mind ] while doing manan limited intelligence limited shastravalokan ... reasoning part is limited ... [ so much of processing time waste ..
• then doubts arise .. again go to eligible guru and ask .. again data acquisition time waste and then again sieve through it and fit the best posiible curve that becomes your understanding
• but your models best fit algorithm is faulty all your nalysis is wrong
• so consolidated chached info is of no optimum quality ..
• OUR RAYARU gives consolidated info in cache directly ready for access
• IS IT NOT POSSIBLE ?
• RAYARU has a extraordinary server with many capabilities of instant search and intelliegent presentation ... data on demand without timel loss
• so we dont have to do manan to create our own pros cons ... data on demand which has granthas like bhava deepa tantra depika gives correct info instantly .. from best possible server ie the author himself .. and places the read cursor at exactly the point where it is required .. and download is speed of light
• If data acquisition / processing times and physical hardware interface is bypassed and termed redundant ... some old genearation comps are unable to believe it
• INSTEAD THEY ARGUE such a phenomenon can exist only in sci fiction
• BUT RAYARU HAS latest TECHNOLOGY ... its should be seen to be believed
• why look for incidents .. i sai proof of puding is in eating why dont you try yourself
• arey bhai no kannada no english .. its machine language here
• koshish toh karo pyare ... poocho rayaru ko mujhe sikhao
• nahi jnana aya toh main blog band kardoonga
• mera confidence dekke toh koshish karo
• phir guru vuru dhoondhane ke chakkar se bahar aajaoge
• why cant you be that person yourselves
• NOW SOME LEARNED SCHOLARS [ those who have done comeplete adhyayana ] will ask .. if these phenomenon were available then where is the PLACE FOR AGYAANA SANSHAYA BHRANTI
• DO YOU MEAN TO SAY SUCH THINGS DONT EXIST IN HE WORLD OF RAYARU DEVOTEES .. how can they differentiate between what they are gaining and what may be bhranti

Rayara Mahima

• RAYARU bless us all
• Vishesha seva ..to RAYARU ... Kinldy explain one adjective in APPANACHARYA stotr of RAYARu which is your favourite and the meaning that you have understood [ not given in book ] .....
• My favourite is AgaMYA mahima
• writing one line is not seva ,.. i said please elaboate with self experience and expressing krutagnyata .. that will give others too the inspiration ... WE ALL HAVE realised Rayar MAhima in one way or the other ..
• AGAMYA MAHIMA .. - WHat RAYARU can do , it is impossible for mortals to even assume or imagine .. His MAHima is incognigible .. MANY people say .. CAn this thing get right .. can that happen .. But when RAYARU blesses one just gasps with surprise oh it happened so easily ..
• I was very fascimated by SHIMSHUMAAR rupi hari since childhood .. I wanted to do its upasana ... so I did lot of manan and one fine day asked RAYARU to show me the way ..my vidya acharya had once said " SHIMSHUMAR rupi HARI bega valiyalla ri " and he wanted to discourage me from that .. saying its too difficult ...and requires lot of preserverance ... years rolled by ... I did not even knew the phala of SHIMSHUMAAR upasaana .. then I got married .. First born was daughter .. I thought I mst get a son .. so again RAYARU ...but simulatneously there grew a intense desire to do pratyaksha archana upasana [ not just manasik ] for shimshumaar ... I thought i must get an idol .. BUT nowhere can you find SHIMSHUMAR vigraha ... and noone can even undrstand it some think it is crocodile some scorpion ... some fish etc etc ... so exact sculpting was nt possible .. BU the desire was intense ...
• ONE DAY my vidya guruji called to Raichur to be present early hours .. so i rushed to be there at 3 am ... and then He gave me a rare silver Shimshumaar vigraha which someone in Raichur had donated from their OLD treasury ... He gave it tome said RAYARU had given him prerana to do so and also gave me Shimshumaar upadesha ..
• The year that followed I worshipped this shimshumar murty with arghya archana etc .. My wife became pregnat and then a son was born ... I later learnt while inspecting anvadhana that Putra prapti is the phala of SHIMSHUMAR rupa upasana
• OF COURSE as SHIMSHUMAAR RUPI HARI GRACED POOJA MANTAP chiraan blog came into existence ...
• Getting a shimshumar vigraha which I can say is imposiibility in todays day to make ... and then opportunity to do its archana ,, and Putraparapti and then astrology .. ALL this is Agamya MAHIMA of RAYARU
• obliged
• hmm lucky
• The blog was never advertised nor told to anyone .. IT all by itself became a community is itself a RAYARU's grace //. otherwise in internet world people employ many gimmicks and still dont achieve any hits .... this site has become headache for WP itself .. and in these three years WP had to introduce atleast 15 20 enhancements only to cater to this blog ... isnt that RAYAR effect
• That is a bit too heavy for beginners isnt it
• somebody said it took him 3 weeks to complete reading of blogspot at the rate 10 hours a day ...
• Suprabhat
• RAYAR MAHIMA for the day !
• few weeks back I was totally ill for more than a month ... what could have been the reason ?
• I had just cremated my uncle ..and then after 13 days ritual .. I chnaged all the janevara , mala etc ... and thought now I am suchi and tried to enter pooja room .. but before i could step inside .. i fell unconscious .. evening i took bath and again before entering the pooja room fell unconscious
• and then Fever increased day by day ... putting a halt to my activities
• so i delegated the pooja to my brother as there are may saligramas and need naivedya daily ...
• BUt my fever would start at 3 am and end at 10 am ..and agin 3pm and 9 pm ... this phenomenon was starnge ..
• after self medication for a four days .. i decided to check my bp sugar etc .. it came normal ..
• but again visted a hospital during normal hours .. nothing substatila was detected ... thinking it to be viral a hevay dosage of antibiotics were given ...
• two weeks passed by .. the phenomenon of fever did not subside but weakness had crept in with aruchi nothing was to be eaten ..
• third week .. I visted a super speciality hospital .. a bllood test indicated infection .. test was taken in evening ... but all other parameters was normal ... this is anamoly .. if there is infection some other parameters should also get disturned [
• just after i came back from hospital and a meeting scheduled at 5 pm could ot becarried as fever had pralysed the moment inexplicably .
• doctors conducted few more test in detecting various viruses and bacterial .. but failed .. except a fat bill nothing materialised ... I took a forcible discharge .. against advise of doctor and came home ..and shut the doors of my room .. and chose to remain calm for three days .. without any avocation just prayers ...
• My family members friends associates everyone were extremely worried .. as By RAYARU's grace a halt to my activity brings halt to many peoples prospects ... it becomes imperative that one remains ACTIVE [ PRARABDHA ] .... but out of action for a month ... had ts toll on business too .... so my brother [ who has doctrate ] observed symptoms closely .. and delved deep into charak samhita ..
• I shut the door went into prayers mode .. after first few hours of prayers ..MY brother declared this could be tandric sannipata jwara ..
• tandra kampavachana kaunthyamukhaye ch indriyodbhava doshaste naashmayanti raghavendra prasaadatah
• the word tandra is important ... even that is removed by RAYARU
• my brother went into market brought some herbs formulated a decoction .... and it was administered .. only thrice .. three sandyas .. that evening I did not get fever
• I chose to remain .. inside .. next day again administered the medicine and this time i could get up .. but there was uneasy feeling ..
• ON the third day .. after prayers my mother who gt worried and came upto me and discussed why i chose to remain on bed .. [ this had never happened ever before ] ...
• then she noticed ..a black thread .. which i wear for deeksha .. [ i remain always in deeksha of some kind or other ] and said YOU ARE STILL IN ASUCHI .. you have forgotten to remove that after cremation ... and the rings of precious stones in hand .. you ahve not removed them either ,...
• OH YES ! what a blunder .. I HAD NOT REOLACED DEEKSHA threads along with janivara .. and not got stones reenergised .. so technically I was still in smashaan a asuchi ..
• SO NO ADHIKAARA FOR POOJA .. I COULD NOT DO POOJA AT ALL and neither ENTER POOJA GRAHA
• as soon as I removed the thread and rings .. there was astarnge energy and peace and within minutes regained all the enthusiasm .. and I WAS RIGHT on MY FEET AS IF NOTHING HAD HAPPENED ..
• Took a days rest .. and THEN TOOK BATH and entered POOJA ROOM DID 5000 guru mantra japa and and dhanvantari japa .. and saligrama pooja ... and aupasan homa .. and I WAS ALLRIGHT as if nothing had happened ..
• There is saying that n pooja room in everones house its always MUKHYAPRANA who does POOJA TO LORD as in shaligrama and not yejamana .. so even if one misses a DAY ., MUKHYAPRANA DOES IT FOR US .. saligramas demand extreme suchi .. when we honour suchi
• DUE to excess work stress when extreme fatigue or weakness in limbs are felt and body becomes extremely lazy so that one cannot get up or do anything ... this is known as tandra
• usually sannipata jwara cannot be detected and medicines dont work ..as it eludes all human logic .
• RAYARU japa stotra helped in this context else for those without knwoledge of diseases this situation would seem as if something out of blue has struck .. as all reports are normal .. even after all monumental tests .... where will a patient go ? especially if he is fainting everyday at 3 am and 3 pm .. for hours and his body has heavy fever ? when doctors fail RAYARU TAKES OVER
• to start any vrat .,some rules are set forth .. resolving to follow these rules come what may till vrata is completed is done by 1> taking sankalpa 2> by taking some auterities like leaving hairs unkempt or not applying tilak or not wearing headgear etc 3> by wearing a sutra on hand or wrist .. these three form deeksha ..

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